All TOCs, all classes with First Class accommodation

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AlterEgo

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Later this year I'll be doing a First Class ALR and documenting all of Britain's train classes which contain First Class accommodation. All I need is a comprehensive list....here's where I've got to so far, corrections, additions or edits greatly appreciated:

Abellio GA:

MkIII
321
170
379
317 (has First been declassified?)
360 - thanks DasLunatic


ATW:

MkIII


c2c:

none


Caledonian Sleeper:

MkIII single sleeper


Chiltern:

none, unless you count Business Zone


CrossCountry:

HST
170
220/221


EMT:

222
HST


Eurostar:

not applicable to ALR travel


Gatwick Express:

387


Grand Central:

HST
180


Great Northern + Thameslink:

319 (are they all declassified now?)
321
377
387
700
365


GWR:

HST
165
166
180 - thanks Ash Bridge


Heathrow Connect:

none


Heathrow Express:

not applicable to ALR travel


Hull Trains:

180


Island Line:

none


London Midland:

321
319
350


London Overground:

none


Merseyrail:

none


Northern:

none


Scotrail:

170
158 - edited, thanks Mordac

(is that it?)


SWT:

444
450
158
159
xx458xx - struck from the list, thanks swt_passenger and Deepgreen


SouthEastern:

375
xx376xx - struck from the list, thanks ComUtoR
377
465


Southern:

171
377
442
387


Stansted Express:

379


Transpennine:

170
185
350


Virgin Trains (WC):

390
221


Virgin Trains EC:

HST
MkIV
 
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No first class on a 376. First class on a 465 depends on which service its on.
 

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As far as I know not all of the Thameslink 319s are declassified - I was certainly on one yesterday that had 1st class markings.
 

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Re GTR 319s: 319/2 and 319/4 retain first class; 319/0 never had first class and 319/3 subclass lost FC when refurbished in the late 1990s. However, many of the services on which 319s are now diagrammed (eg I think the Wimbledon loop line?) don't have booked FC, although the subclasses are used indiscriminately.
 

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I believe to the contrary, AlterEgo, there was a discussion about it on here somewhere a few weeks ago. ([thread]131769[/thread])
 
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Re GTR 319s: 319/2 and 319/4 retain first class; 319/0 never had first class and 319/3 subclass lost FC when refurbished in the late 1990s. However, many of the services on which 319s are now diagrammed (eg I think the Wimbledon loop line?) don't have booked FC, although the subclasses are used indiscriminately.

I believe the Wilmbledon Loop line services are standard class only, services to Sevenoaks carry 1st class.

As for 317s on GA, I believe when working on Hertford East services they are standard class only, when working on the main-line towards Bishops Stortford and Cambridge they carry 1st class.
 

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Have fun with it, i've just finished one, yesterday was my last day. I did mine based around a fair few long distance runs rather than lots of short ones. I did a 14 day one a few years back where i incorporated lots of little lines too (most of which were std class only). Enjoyed it very much, got around 6500 miles under the belt and sampled lots fo different types of tea and cake etc.
 

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EDIT: Scotrail 158s are currently being declassified upon refurbishment, so I don't know what category that falls under?
 
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Another one missed, but it's a bit of an anomaly: One Northern daily crowdbuster service using a GC 180. I assume first is declassified as there are no first class fares from Bradford Interchange to Leeds. Unless they lock the whole carriage out of use. Of course as it could be any of the GC 180s there's not much point for your ALR as you'd probably need to spend the night in Bradford... Perish the thought! ;)
 
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Another one missed, but it's a bit of an anomaly: One Northern daily crowdbuster service using a GC 180. I assume first is declassified as there are no first class fares from Bradford Interchange to Leeds. Unless they lock the whole carriage out of use. Of course as it could be any of the GC 180s there's not much point for your ALR as you'd probably need to spend the night in Bradford... Perish the thought! ;)

There is a first class fare, and First Class on that train is not declassified.
Sam
 
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