"Any reasonable route" returns

[John @ home]

I am surprised to read the following in Virgin's Easter Travel Guide leaflet, which I picked up at Edinburgh Waverley station this afternoon.

Valid "any reasonable" ticket routes

If using an "any reasonable route" ticket, please note:

Tickets from London to Manchester Piccadilly:
VALID London St. Pancras to Manchester via Chesterfield
NOT VALID London Kings Cross to Leeds

Tickets from London to Birmingham New Street:
VALID London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor / Snow Hill

Tickets from London to Carlisle:
London Kings Cross to Newcastle or Edinburgh routes
VALID south of Leeds NOT VALID north of Leeds

Sorry I can't find a pdf of the leaflet at virgintrains.com
Colours and text effects as in leaflet.
And yes it does mention journeys to Birmingham Moor!

 

[A60K]

They'll be talking about getting an InterCity 125, visiting the Travellers-Fare buffet before you trravel and when you can use your Blue Savers in the August Bank Holiday leaflet

Incidentally, is it just me or is that Carlisle advice unclear - Settle is north of Leeds, but the leaflet text makes it sound at first glance that it's not permitted.

 

[flymo]

a pdf of the leaflet

Available here

 

[jopsuk]

Incidentally, is it just me or is that Carlisle advice unclear - Settle is north of Leeds, but the leaflet text makes it sound at first glance that it's not permitted.

It isn't clear- they're trying to say that they're not valid via York and Newcastle- it's just a particualrly mealy mouthed way of doing so.

 

[LondonLarry]

There's a badly written leaflet! Glad I'm not travelling on Virgin over Easter!

 

[Deerfold]

There's a badly written leaflet! Glad I'm not travelling on Virgin over Easter!

I'm not sure about the definition of a "Frequent" shuttle between London and Milton Keynes which is half-hourly, one fewer an hour than than on a normal Sunday. It's not horrendous, but I woudn't describe it as a frequent shuttle.

 

[yorkie]

It's very badly worded.

It's basically saying tickets routed Any Permitted from Carlisle to London are only valid on the ECML as far north as Leeds. Obviously they are valid north of Leeds, on the line to Carlisle.

I think it would be much simpler if they changed the Route Newcastle fares to Any Permitted, and re-named the Any Permitted to Route Not Newcastle, and ensured that via Newcastle was a permitted route.

The idea that an Any Permitted ticket is more restrictive than a route specific ticket, and that a route specific ticket is valid via the route specified and all the permitted routes is absurd.

 

[mickey]

Incidentally, is it just me or is that Carlisle advice unclear - Settle is north of Leeds, but the leaflet text makes it sound at first glance that it's not permitted.

I thought the same thing. Similarly, why no mention of valid routes out of Paddington?

 

[wintonian]

There's a badly written leaflet! Glad I'm not travelling on Virgin over Easter!

Glad I'm flyng. Though my friend didn't want to go up on the sleeper so no choice realy.