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How they survive? There depot is a poky muck hole and there buses are dishevelled whilst drivers are on £10ph, that’s how.

The place for drivers that have been sacked/blacklisted from every other bus company.
 
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The place for drivers that have been sacked/blacklisted from every other bus company.
It’s not just avondales who get the cast offs, but it also set a bleak future for public transport, nothing is changing for the better in Glasgow and these small operators gently add to the problems with the lack of quality transport in Glasgow, particularly if public bus transport is to be re-enabled as an important part of our future against global warming and reducing local emission levels.
 

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Nowhere near enough to a Pacer :(
I'm not entirely sure if I'm comfortable with this putting down and demoralising of drivers who might have been dismissed and in some cases unfairly from the major operators who are at times notorious for their unfair treatment of workforce. Casting aspersions like this is surely not good for morale in the industry and makes a message board like this look bad as well
 

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I'm not entirely sure if I'm comfortable with this putting down and demoralising of drivers who might have been dismissed and in some cases unfairly from the major operators who are at times notorious for their unfair treatment of workforce. Casting aspersions like this is surely not good for morale in the industry and makes a message board like this look bad as well
Normally I would agree but not on this occasion. Other than the work/life balance they really don't offer up much good from everything I've read in terms of working for them. The main reason their buses really pick up anyone is concession passengers exist and their buses tend to be right in front of First's most of the time
 

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The main reason their buses really pick up anyone is concession passengers exist and their buses tend to be right infront of First's most of the time
I seem to remember Stagecoach being criticized for this practice in the 90's when they were trying to out muscle local authority operators. Seemed to have worked out pretty good for them.
 

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I seem to remember Stagecoach being criticized for this practice in the 90's when they were trying to out muscle local authority operators. Seemed to have worked out pretty good for them.
Yeah I see the 400 quite regularly and their buses seem to be more frequent again. The timetable just says every 30 mins or less. It's definitely closer to 15-20 mins at worst.
 

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Another Avondale bus broke down again on the 400 yesterday, I don’t get why it’s so common for their buses to break down a lot more than First or McGills.
 

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Another Avondale bus broke down again on the 400 yesterday, I don’t get why it’s so common for their buses to break down a lot more than First or McGills.
Something to do with the age of their fleet? It's a low cost operation and that brings a different set of problems. You could perhaps have balanced that by asking why First have so many vehicle fires given that they have had at least 2 in the past few months that I know of.
 

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I do like that Avondale replace their Darts with different Darts so regularly that they keep the operating discs inside clear pockets taped on to the back of the dashboard. It's a very efficient way of doing things that i can't say i've seen any other operator do.
 

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Another Avondale bus broke down again on the 400 yesterday, I don’t get why it’s so common for their buses to break down a lot more than First or McGills.
And do you have statistics to back up that Avondale have more breakdowns than first?
 

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You’d be surprised at the amount of breakdowns there are at First Glasgow everyday….
If you think of it in a ratio of vehicles versus the total number of vehicles in the company I'd imagine Avondale's looks much worse especially when you think of how infrequent Avondale's very few services are too at the minute
 

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Something to do with the age of their fleet? It's a low cost operation and that brings a different set of problems. You could perhaps have balanced that by asking why First have so many vehicle fires given that they have had at least 2 in the past few months that I know of.
Aye the age of the fleet will be a factor. Their “newest” bus is from 2008. With the majority of their fleet being 03, 54, 06 and 56 plate Darts or East Lancs Esteem’s.
 

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Aye the age of the fleet will be a factor. Their “newest” bus is from 2008. With the majority of their fleet being 03, 54, 06 and 56 plate Darts or East Lancs Esteem’s.
There’s like only 2 of them left, the rest haven’t been in service since 2020.
 

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Aye the age of the fleet will be a factor. Their “newest” bus is from 2008. With the majority of their fleet being 03, 54, 06 and 56 plate Darts or East Lancs Esteem’s.
What do they have from 2008? The fleet today is made solely of darts
 

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Does anyone remember when Avondale ran the 504 Service to Greenock?


I found some more info about Avondale in Inverclyde, and also found some images of Avondale bus routes in West Dumbartonshire too:
 
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