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Well, I wonder if @xotGD can find himself on one of these photos...

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Or on the kettle thrash on the actual Vale of Rheidol railway...

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Oh, and this was there too. 40 013, I think.

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The clown legging it across the tracks behind No. 8 might indeed be me! The date of the trip was 5th May 1986.

Strangely I have no recollection of seeing the 40 there.

Thanks for sharing the pics - I didn't get my camera until that summer so don't have any photos of my own.
 
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Wow lads,
Some fantastic recollections and pics in there. Sorry about the 47 bowling you for 56, I did laugh but even as a Spoon lover, I'd have been a bit p*ssed off if a 47 turned up instead of a Grid. My pain would've been less than yourself but I can appreciate the rarer things too. Although 47709 was a little lost, its a rather scant reward.
Having done Stewart Lane Depot too, the place was actually pristine, by far the cleanest and tidiest depot, I'd been round. Our guides took us to places outside to see stuff BUT we were told come this way, do not stray away, then stand there and don't move. Just ask if you want to know anything, at the time, I remember thinking(well apart from being **** scared I put my foot on the 3rd rail by total mistake or tripping over) this is like being shown the route through a mine field.
My abiding memory of SL was a slim Jim throbbing away in the shed, the reverberations seemed to go right through you. Also inside the main shed was a loco, I'd recently seen in Rail Enthusiast magazine and thought, I hope we see that when we're in London. None other than, 09012 DIck Hardy (yes, I did have an immature titter too) in the ever increasing but still relatively new, Inter City livery but titter ye not, I was delighted to see it too, as it was a cop too.
After coming off SL, with a boat load of cops(it was my first sojourn to London, I still cop loads when I go there), a guy on the coach asked, you do well there son, I said, aye, what about you? I got a few for the year, a name and livery, he replied. I was gobsmacked, I said, Year, You completely start again every year? I still have a book for all time sight but yes, I start from 1st Jan to 31st December, Keeps it interesting for me. I asked if I could possibly look at his books, he readily agreed and passed them over. His all time sights, the ones he needed were in pencil, of which, I'm told, he just rubs out when he sees them. Trust me, there wasn't very many pencil lines and haulages underlined in red biro, of which there was as many as I had for sight. His book for the year, did have more than I'd seen for sight. His books were immaculate too and complimented him on it, the one thing I nicked from him, from that day forth I made a promise to myself, my books I would try to keep equally as immaculate as his.
Everytime I see a pic of 33113, could be in outer Mongolia and like was posted in this thread earlier, I'll always think of it as the one that came to the Toon.
Mr North West Rover, loving these old photos, especially the 40s because coming up to and in my early teenage years, seeing 40s in the North East was becoming a bit of a rarity, not uncommon on freights but not passenger turns, certainly seemed more prevalent in the North West and Scotland if memory serves me right. I loved the whistling but the noise they make when thrashed was amazing. The shape of the nameplates on them too, added to their character.
Sure you guys will have many bashing tales to tell chasing 40s. I knew a guy, well a friend of a friends, who'd drive down to Preston on a regular basis, normally a Friday for the 40 turn, doing them to Blackpool and back. Then kip in his car for a bit, then over to Manchester to try his luck there, then drive home. His name escapes me sadly.
I knew a couple of committed 40 bashers from the north east. Doing an overnight in a car sounds like the sort of thing they'd do.
 

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Strangely I have no recollection of seeing the 40 there.

I have consulted the Class 40 Motherlist which is a pretty comprehensive list of every working from 1960 to 1988. It appears that 40 013 was withdrawn in January 1985 and stored at Bescot. However, it was then painted in that odd blue and was dragged here, there and everywhere with either a brake can or a Mk1 coach as a sort of exhibition loco. No record of when it arrived at Aberystwyth but was dragged by a Rat away from there on 11th May 1986. It was withdrawn again and spent a long time at Tyseley, before moving to Crewe Diesel Depot and then Basford Hall. In 1988 it ended up at Vic Berry's, but as we know avoided the blow torch and is now one of the preserved 40s.
 
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More Syphons...

A year or so before the trip that @xotGD and I did to Aberystwyth behind 37 426, it appears I was out sampling a much more varied selection of 37s between Shrewsbury and Aberystwyth. This bunch was in late May/early June 1985.

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A split headcode example across the complicated junction at Shrewsbury and a pair ready to take the long slow trip out to the coast.

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Two more out on the route, who knows where. Welshpool, Caersws?

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And two in Aberystwyth. Look at the load, none of these pathetic three and four coach things we get nowadays.

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I wasn't alone... Dozens of bashers waiting at Caersws...

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Oh, and look what was at Shrewsbury. No, not the DMU, although that's quite cute.

I need my moves books to add some detail to these memories...
 
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I have consulted the Class 40 Motherlist which is a pretty comprehensive list of every working from 1960 to 1988. It appears that 40 013 was withdrawn in January 1985 and stored at Bescot. However, it was then painted in that odd blue and was dragged here, there and everywhere with either a brake can or a Mk1 coach as a sort of exhibition loco. No record of when it arrived at Aberystwyth but was dragged by a Rat away from there on 11th May 1986. It was withdrawn again and spent a long time at Tyseley, before moving to Crewe Diesel Depot and then Basford Hall. In 1988 it ended up at Vic Berry's, but as we know avoided the blow torch and is now one of the preserved 40s.
Looks like Miss Vale of Rheidol left a longer lasting impression on me than the Class 40!
 

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I didn't remember any of it until I saw my own photos. In fact, still not sure I remember it
 

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More Syphons...

A year or so before the trip that @xotGD and I did to Aberystwyth behind 37 426, it appears I was out sampling a much more varied selection of 37s between Shrewsbury and Aberystwyth. This bunch was in late May/early June 1985.

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A split headcode example across the complicated junction at Shrewsbury and a pair ready to take the long slow trip out to the coast.

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Two more out on the route, who knows where. Welshpool, Caersws?

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And two in Aberystwyth. Look at the load, none of these pathetic three and four coach things we get nowadays.

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I wasn't alone... Dozens of bashers waiting at Caersws...

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Oh, and look what was at Shrewsbury. No, not the DMU, although that's quite cute.

I need my moves books to add some detail to these memories...
I never made it the year before the 37/4s arrived. Plenty of big 37s worked on the Cambrian that summer. Mind, we did get plenty in the north east too!

37177 in one of your phots I had in 1986 piloting a 45 from Worcester to Brum on the diverted Bristol - Glasgow overnight. Less than 4 weeks after 426 on the Aberystwyth trip, in fact. Two weeks later and 177 was back on the Cambrian paired with 427. That was the day 37509 failed at Caersws and the train was rescued by 25211.
 

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Yeah, 37s were not that frequent in the North West on anything, passenger or freight. We'd got 31s into Lime St from Sheffield etc and I have a vague memory that they'd started on Blackpool and Barrow turns. But prior to that, they were also rare in the North West. I always thought of them both as Eastern Region locos, though of course they were also in South Wales, particularly 37s.
 

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Trips to Tinsley, Healey Mills, Worksop etc were the place for a Lancastrian to get them. Or down to East Anglia, if flush. Stratford was of course the real place to get them all. Or your neck of the woods with Thornaby and Gateshead.
 
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Yeah, 37s were not that frequent in the North West on anything, passenger or freight. We'd got 31s into Lime St from Sheffield etc and I have a vague memory that they'd started on Blackpool and Barrow turns. But prior to that, they were also rare in the North West. I always thought of them both as Eastern Region locos, though of course they were also in South Wales, particularly 37s.
On the flip side 25s were not too regular in the north east. Although a trip across to Carlisle was a good way to see different stuff. Including those weird locos with pantographs. (Although I did once see the former Class 84 in departmental use at Newcastle as part of a test train.)
 

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Keep em coming guys. This thread is a bit much needed light relief I must say.
 

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Roaring away....

Living in Warrington and then studying in Wolverhampton, I had little problem clearing the electric locos for spotting first of all in the late 70s and then having many for haulage. I don't think I had an 84 for haulage, but certainly had the rest. I cleared the 87s and possibly the 86/1 and 86/2 sub-classes; I can't remember. I've no photos of any 82s, I'm afraid but here is a selection of Roarers - 81, 82, 83, 84, 85 for the youngsters amongst you. They really did make a racket when pulling away from a platform. Oh, and I can't remember how to tell them apart so I might call an 85 an 81 etc. Any corrections welcome.


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This is a bit of a rarity.

This shot at Warrington Bank Quay has a Roarer paired with possibly an 87 (hard to see). 87s were rare on freight and Roarers were not paired with 86s or 87s very often either.
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Here are a couple of 85s on Northbound services leaving Crewe. Obviously Crewe was a mecca for electric locos. All the London to Glasgow trains passed through here, plus all the London to Liverpools. Some of the Manchesters came this way and I think these two are Manchesters given their positioning on the track. They may have been on services from London or Birmingham.

I'm having a few problems uploading the images, so I'll post this and then try again later.
 

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Three Roarers in the West Midlands. An unidentified 85 in the sidings at Wolverhampton, 81 011 between duties at Birmingham New Street and 85 014 at Coventry on a Euston service, I guess.

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83 001 leaving Warrington Bank Quay on a southbound service.

I'll try to upload some more later.
 

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83001. Dreadful!

As I said up thread watching 82s and 83s depart Carlisle and not purchasing a return to Penrith was a bit of a schoolboy error.

Well I was a schoolboy, so fair enough!
 

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Warrington Bank Quay again with 85 002 on a southbound freight passing 86 214 on a northbound passenger service. The 86 was in a special livery for the Rainhill 150 celebrations. This was probably in 1980.

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This Roarer was sitting in the North bay at Warrington Bank Quay, probably waiting for a freight train which would arrive behind a diesel and then this loco would take it up the WCML.

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A sad sight. 84 008 on the scrap line somewhere. I have a suspicion it might bizarrely have been Doncaster (long before electrification over there), although logic would have suggested it was Crewe.

That's your lot for Roarers. I'll bore you rigid with some 87s next ha ha ha.
 

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when I started going to Warrington regularly in about 1986 or 87 double headed 87s or 86s where on the steel trains from ravenscraig. It always felt a bit weird seeing them on freight as they were usually on passenger work. Their was once a double headed 86 on HAAs through Warrington the only time I've ever seen this in over 30 years being a train enthusiast.
 

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84008 was at crewe work's.As I remember seeing it there went i went to crewe work's open day on the 4th July 1987.
 

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Thanks, makes sense. I think my photo is a couple of years earlier (at least), but Crewe was the obvious place really.
 

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Trips to Tinsley, Healey Mills, Worksop etc were the place for a Lancastrian to get them. Or down to East Anglia, if flush. Stratford was of course the real place to get them all. Or your neck of the woods with Thornaby and Gateshead.

Indeed. Tinsley was my “go to” location for them. Eventually I went to South Wales on coach and car trips. I could see as many as 100 Class 37s in a weekend.
 

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Back in the day (as this thread is called), there were organised coach trips to a selection of depots. I remember one I did to the Yorkshire depots which would probably have included Tinsley, Healey Mills, Holbeck, Worksop, Immingham, Doncaster, Knottingley. I would have copped hundreds of locos on that. They used to go the remotely stabled shunters too.
 

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Back in the day (as this thread is called), there were organised coach trips to a selection of depots. I remember one I did to the Yorkshire depots which would probably have included Tinsley, Healey Mills, Holbeck, Worksop, Immingham, Doncaster, Knottingley. I would have copped hundreds of locos on that. They used to go the remotely stabled shunters too.
Dales Croft, NCTS and Little Midland - SYRS ? I was an NCTS man.
 

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Class 87 electrics. Only 36 of them. Worked exclusively on the West Coast Main Line for at least the first 15 years of their existence. Great names - Wolf of Badenoch, Cock o'the North, Black Douglas. Many now in Bulgaria. Look great.

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Me aged 12 or 13 in front of the nameplate of 87 002 Royal Sovereign at Warrington Bank Quay.

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Up and down the WCML - Euston, Stafford, Preston, Lime St, Wolverhampton, Glasgow, Crewe.

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"The Special One" aka 87 101 aka 87 036 aka Stephenson. How on earth this was not preserved, I don't know.

Much better thrashing up and down the WCML behind one of these whilst enjoying the comfort of a Mk3 coach than the current thrill of a Pendolino. I need to try one of TPE's new 397 units.

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Is 87101 actually dragging a unit there or are they just stabled together?

I agree on the names. Way better than some of the corporate fawning efforts you get.
 

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It does look like it's dragging the 304, but surely it wasn't. It is in the through platform (Wolverhampton), so very odd. Pantograph is up. Maybe the unit had failed.
 

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Class 87 electrics. Only 36 of them. Worked exclusively on the West Coast Main Line for at least the first 15 years of their existence. Great names - Wolf of Badenoch, Cock o'the North, Black Douglas. Many now in Bulgaria. Look great.

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Me aged 12 or 13 in front of the nameplate of 87 002 Royal Sovereign at Warrington Bank Quay.

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Up and down the WCML - Euston, Stafford, Preston, Lime St, Wolverhampton, Glasgow, Crewe.

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"The Special One" aka 87 101 aka 87 036 aka Stephenson. How on earth this was not preserved, I don't know.

Much better thrashing up and down the WCML behind one of these whilst enjoying the comfort of a Mk3 coach than the current thrill of a Pendolino. I need to try one of TPE's new 397 units.

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Some fantastic memories there @NorthWestRover - I liked these machines bashing them in the 80s when most other bashers did other things. :)
 

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Even hardcore 40 Bashers couldn't resist the 87s... Them, not me. I had three to four years doing 40s; at least one of this group was a leading Chester basher with tens of thousands of miles to their name...
 
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