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Friday 17/11/78
On my way home from college, I forsook the rattling DMU direct to York in favour of something rather better:
55017 1620 Harrogate – Leeds
46038 1707 Leeds – York
Just occasionally, the 2150 York – Shrewsbury would produce a class 40, so I decided to cover it that evening to see what it produced. Wow, a Deltic! How far will it work?
55015 2150 York – Stockport via OA&GB Jn, Denton Jn.
I had a “Zone F Bullseye” ticket which was used for journeys to / from college, and which was valid as far as Marsden. Thereafter ticketing got a bit confusing, since I also held a Student Railcard, but that had a minimum fare applicable on weekdays. So when the guard came around gripping I showed my Zone F Bullseye (valid to the PTE boundary at Marsden), and asked for:
1) A full price single Marsden to Stalybridge (where we arrived just after midnight, so the weekday minimum price restriction no longer applied); and
2) A student day return Stalybridge to Stockport; and
3) A student single Stalybridge to Marsden.
The guard rolled his eyes, checked that I would be travelling back on the Shrewsbury – York with him, charged me the excess from Marsden to Stalybridge and forgot about the rest, since he couldn’t find the details in his fares manual! 63p well spent.
(Saturday 18/11/78)
55015 0151 Stockport – Leeds via Denton Jn, OA&GB Jn.*
33’ late ex Stockport due to slow shunting and attaching of vehicles at Stockport.
The Deltic came off at Leeds to work a Leeds – Kings Cross service later in the morning (so putting a Deltic on the York – Shrewsbury diagram was really just an elegant way of moving it from the home depot of York to Leeds for the services on the following morning).
31312 0236 Leeds – York
*(Incidentally, the direct route from Stalybridge to Guide Bridge was barred to loco-hauled trains due to a weight restriction over a dodgy bridge, hence during this era the loco-hauled passenger and freight services ran via OA&GB Jn, avoiding Guide Bridge station entirely. Once the dodgy bridge was sorted out, the route via OA&GB Junction was closed, and the signalbox abolished).

Saturday 17/11/79
Another ECML Saturday night diversion jamboree, with a Deltic this time:
55006 2100 London Kings Cross – Edinburgh via:
ECML to Peterborough
Joint Lines & Lincoln Central to Doncaster
ECML (Selby) to Northallerton
Stockton AND Leamside to Newcastle
Scotswood and Carlisle to Edinburgh

Tuesday 17/11/81
55008 1940 Kings Cross – Huntingdon
55016 2044 Huntingdon – Kings Cross
 
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Tuesday 17th November 1982

87001 Wolves to Birmingham NS, 1M42 10.30 Inverness to Euston
86402 Birmingham NS to Wolves, 1G?? 21.40 Euston to Wolves
 

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17th November 1991

Another quiet day for me so I'll mention this:

91015 Newcastle - Doncaster (via High Level Bridge)

So "round the back of the shed" with a 91 twice in two days.
 

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Saturday 18th November 1978

85018 Euston to Warrington BQ

Home from a day spotting in London. Must have been a Can to get there.
 

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Sunday 18/11/79
Having arrived at Edinburgh behind 55006 all the way from Kings Cross via a wide range of diversions, there was time for a (much-needed) shower in the Edinburgh Superloo before heading out in search of class 40s. Calls were made, and it was soon evident that the Glasgow – Aberdeen route was the place to be:
47705 0840 Edinburgh – Dundee
40160 1043 Dundee – Aberdeen (25’ late due to Single Line Working)
40058 1300 Aberdeen – Glasgow Queen Street, 5’ early arrival!
Now a dilemma – the 1645 Queen Street – Aberdeen was 40164, so do I alight en route so I can cover all the southbound overnights out of Edinburgh, or do I take 164 all the way?
40164 1645 Glasgow Queen Street – Aberdeen
It had to be done: 40s on the Glasgow – Aberdeen route were regular performers, but I wasn’t there that often, so I seized the chance to have a round trip from Aberdeen to Queen Street with class 40s. However, after the Lord Mayor’s Parade comes the dustcart:
47410 2035 Aberdeen – Edinburgh
(Monday 19/11/79)
With all alternative southbound departures having long since gone, the only exit was to stick with the 2035 ex Aberdeen, regardless of motive power. Oh well, ‘nuff said:
47521 0008 Edinburgh – Kings Cross

Wednesday 18/11/81
On Monday 16/11/81, the 2315 from Kings Cross to Aberdeen ran OK as far as Doncaster, where – in the wee small hours of Tuesday 17/11/81, an unscheduled loco change took place, with 40033 taking over, and working forward to Edinburgh. At Edinburgh 40033 was unhooked, and sent light engine back to Gateshead. Gateshead didn’t want it either, so sent it light engine to York. The same happened again, so it was sent light engine to Finsbury Park, so it spent all of Tuesday 17/11/81 running light engine all the way from Edinburgh to London. Its next job?
40033 0005 Kings Cross – Doncaster
It carried on through to Newcastle, but I had to alight to get back south to work. Thankfully there was a suitable exit for me:
55013 03xx Doncaster – Kings Cross
(I don’t think the stop at Doncaster was publicly advertised, but I boarded without any issues).

Sunday 18/11/84
Railtour:
20116 + 20015 1000 Glasgow Central – Gourock

Tuesday 18/11/97
I decided to take a half day at work, as the loco on the 1418 Paddington – Edinburgh was not the usual 47/8:
37114 1418 Paddington – Birmingham New Street via Coventry, 60’ late waiting driver.
My journey back home wasn’t straightforward either. The 1230 Glasgow – Poole was running 45 minutes late after 47844 had failed at Preston and was replaced by 47841, which was itself suffering from low amps.
47841 1805 Birmingham New Street – Reading via Coventry
Not one of Cross Country’s better days – but a fine afternoon for me.
 

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SATURDAY 18th NOVEMBER 1978:

A quick shopping trip to Portsmouth gave the opportunity for a mile of Goyle haulage with a required loco:

12 20 Waterloo-Portsmouth Harbour: 7811/7838 Petersfield-Fratton
11 15 Bristol TM-Portsmouth Harbour: 31 401 Fratton-Portsmouth & Southsea (Consist: W15996/5177/81251/M25893/W5070/5162 Load 6 VB/DH)
15 05 Portsmouth Harbour-Waterloo: 7387/7811 Portsmouth & Southsea-Petersfield
 

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18th November 1989

I decided to take in some FA Cup Action, so I took a DMU to get me to:

Kidderminster Harriers 2 Swansea City 3 - an entertaining game, but alas no giant killing.

I was festering on the station for the unit back to Brum. Hello - what's this...???

37408 Kidderminster - New St 2M22

Very nice. Here it is earlier in the day:

Class37.co.uk

If I'd had the gen, I could have had it to Kiddy before the game too.

18th November 1990

86209 New St - Wolves
86419 Wolves - New St

Another one of those days.
 

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SATURDAY 18th NOVEMBER 1983:

I was staying with my grandmother on Tees-side for a couple of weeks in between finishing my first railway career as a train services planner in Glasgow and starting my second one as a guard at Brighton. I had to go back to Glasgow to hand back the keys to my rented flat in Hyndland, so I chose a day when WCML services in and out of Glasgow Central were being diverted via the Larkfield Junction-Shields Junction curve due to engineeering works in Eglinton Street tunnel:

07 39 Middlesbrough-Newcastle: E51206/54403 Stockton-Newcastle
07 05 Edinburgh-Carlisle: 47 040 Newcastle-Carlisle
08 07 Birmingham New Street-Glasgow Central: 87 016 Carlisle-Shields Junction (reverse)
81 009 Shields Junction-Glasgow Central
13 09 Springburn-Milngavie: 303 009 Glasgow QS LL-Hyndland
17 21 Milngavie-Springburn: 303 001 Hyndland-Glasgow QS LL
18 00 Glasgow QS HL-Edinburgh: 47 703 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh via Falkirk High
16 30 Aberdeen-York: 47 434 Edinburgh-Newcastle
21 35 Newcastle-Middlesburgh: E54408/53294 Newcastle-Stockton

Another roarer ticked-off for haulage....even though it was only for less than two miles.
 

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Sunday 19/11/78
A Sunday evening with a weekly ticket burning a hole in my pocket. I went for a spin to Leeds, hoping a class 40 might put in an appearance:
46044 1721 York – Leeds via Castleford
40086 1836 Leeds – Keighley
… where I didn’t have very long to wait for:
40019 1905 Keighley – Leeds
46014 2006 Leeds – York via Castleford
I scored 40019, but all the other three locos were dud for haulage.

Thursday 19/11/81
There was another 40 working an overnight out of Kings Cross. Difficult to say “No.”
40044 2300 Kings Cross – Doncaster
(Friday 20/11/81)
There were various southbound services I could cover from Doncaster, but the second Edinburgh – Kings Cross overnight produced a Deltic:
55013 0311 Doncaster – Kings Cross

Monday 19/11/84
Working early shift in Glasgow Control, I learned that 40012 was going to be out all day on the Edinburgh – Dundee circuit, so after obtaining the necessary Domestic Exit Visa, I set off after work to have it:
47701 1600 Glasgow Queen Street – Edinburgh
40012 1718 Edinburgh – Princes Street Gardens
47207 1730 Princes St Gardens – Edinburgh
Oh dear! 40012 shut down 3 times between departing Edinburgh and struggling to a halt in Princes Street Gardens. After some delay, 47207 (which should have been working the next Dundee service) came and dragged us back into one of the through platforms, detached 40012 for fitters’ attention, and departed with the 1718 to Dundee for the second time at 1750. I alighted to await events.
40012 was attached to a coolant hose, and left for a drink. Eventually it was fired up again, pronounced fit for traffic, and worked the 1918 to Dundee:
40012 1918 Edinburgh – Dundee
40012 2128 Dundee – Edinburgh
It was all a bit late now, so I had to do an overnight (again):
47614 2340 Edinburgh – Carstairs (continued tomorrow) …

Tuesday 19/11/85
81011 2345 Glasgow Central – Birmingham New Street
Nice to get a decent long run with a Roarer …
 

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As I haven't got anything else for today...

19th November 1985

Derby day in Edinburgh

91020 Newcastle - Waverley

Hearts 2 Hibs 1

91019 Waverley - Newcastle

19th November 2001

91130 Doncaster - Newcastle
 

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Definitely. And both, especially Welsh, make much of the Hearts vs Hibs rivalry. From the Hibs point of view you'll be disappointed to hear. Trainspotting is the obvious Welsh to start with. Not least because of its name. There are now many sequels and prequels to Trainspotting with the characters at different stages of their lives. Rankin's Rebus novels are crime fiction - best to read them in order really. Great stories, Rebus is a legend, old style pubs and proper music feature heavily too.
 

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Saturday 20th November 1982

A change from Goyles as I went hoovering up the miles. Gaps would be Cans, Duffs, Trams...

87016 WBQ to Crewe
87001 Wolves to Birmingham NS
85036 Birmingham NS to Coventry
50003 Coventry to Leamington Spa
50050 Leamington Spa to Birmingham NS
50013 Birmingham NS to Reading
50034 Reading to Oxford
50006 Oxford to Paddington
50050 Paddington to Gloucester
50027 Gloucester to Cheltenham Spa

And then home somehow.
 

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Tuesday 20th November 1984 - I fancied a trip along the Highland Line

47520 0925 Edinburgh-Inverness to Blair Atholl, where the Driver requested assistance due to poor rail conditions. What would come from Perth to help out:
47520 plus 47416 Blair Atholl-Dalwhinnie, where I had to curtail my trip. Oh well.
47617 1220 Inverness-Glasgow Queen St from Dalwhinnie.

I don't recommend Dalwhinnie as a place to wait for a train during Autumn.....
 

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Tuesday 20th November 1984 - I fancied a trip along the Highland Line
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I don't recommend Dalwhinnie as a place to wait for a train during Autumn.....
o_O
Dalwhinnie is best viewed from the comfort of a train. I don't think I've ever set foot on the platforms there. You must be braver than me!

Meanwhile ...

Tuesday 20/11/84
Having been “forced” into an overnight by the failure of 40012 the previous evening, it was now a case of salvaging what I could from the situation. The loco forward from Carstairs was a pleasant surprise:
81006 0041 Carstairs – Carlisle
81006 had been out of service at Shields depot since 30th August (when I had it on the 2050 Carlisle – Perth), and had come off repairs at 2300 Monday 19th November, and was put straight to work on the 2350 overnight from Glasgow to Bristol!
On arrival at Carlisle I decided to do the northbound Fort William overnight:
86250 0132 Carlisle – Mossend
37027 04xx Mossend – Crianlarich via Gartsherrie, Gartcosh, Springburn, Cowlairs, Glasgow Queen Street. (Assisted by unknown loco Cowlairs to Queen Street).
Just time for a reviving cup of coffee at the station buffet at Crianlarich, then time to head back south, and back to work:
37043 0910 Crianlarich – Glasgow Queen Street

Wednesday 20/11/85
50029 0645 Birmingham New Street – Paddington via Solihull, High Wycombe
Time for some more English Electric power, of a different nature:
1004 1245 Charing Cross – Hastings
1002 1440 Hastings – Ashford
1619 + 1604 + 1587 Ashford – Waterloo East
“Last day of the Bakerloo Line 1938 Tube Stock”
Waterloo – Elephant & Castle – Queen’s Park - Elephant & Castle – Stonebridge Park (all in red 1938 Tube Stock in normal service trains).
EMU Stonebridge Park – Euston
Now, time to head home:
87026 2110 Euston – Carlisle
(Thursday 21/11/85)
47521 0206 Carlisle – Stranraer
This was load 13, and booked a pilot loco from Ayr (which was the entire point of doing this lengthy overnight with a duff).
Pilot loco came there none! Oh well, I wonder what’s waiting for me at Stranraer …
47526 0730 Stranraer – Paisley Gilmour Street
I’ve had better overnights …

Monday 20/11/95
Just by way of a contrast, by the mid 90s the railway had transformed from being a network with plentiful loco haulage to being a mish-mash of small plastic trains. Accompanied by wife + 2 young children, I was travelling from my parents’ house in Plymouth to visit my sister in Looe, and then home to Reading, pausing en route for touristic diversions, meals, etc. This is how it went:
153 308 + 153 373 Plymouth – Liskeard
153 368 Liskeard – Looe and return
43078 + 43090 1048 Liskeard – Exeter St Davids
153 327 Exeter St Davids – Exeter Central (pause for lunch)
159 004 Exeter Central – Salisbury (pause for touristy bits)
159 001 + 159 010 Salisbury – Andover (another touristy pause)
159 022 Andover – Basingstoke
165 131 Basingstoke – Reading
Plastic Fantastic (or not, depending upon your point of view).
 

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I don't recommend Dalwhinnie as a place to wait for a train during Autumn.....

It certainly is now - visitor centre at the Distillery is very welcoming! Although potentially dangerous to the wallet and personal co-ordination if the wait is too long.
 

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What on Earth did you find touristy in Andover?!
The passage of time has thankfully dimmed the memory. I suspect the conversation involved some grizzling noises from wife and / or kids, and some long-suffering sighs from me!
 

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After a fairly quiet interlude from me, lots to report today with three different dates from the 'seventies and 'eighties:

MONDAY 20th NOVEMBER 1978:

Another after-work pint in the Hole in the Wall prior to a homeward Crompton bash:

06 23 Portsmouth Harbour-Waterloo: 7820/7736/7818 Petersfield-Waterloo
08 08 Waterloo-Woking: 7822 Waterloo-Woking
16 25 Shepperton-Waterloo: 4628/4635 Wimbledon-Waterloo
19 00 Waterloo-Exeter St David's: 33 027 Waterloo-Woking (Consist: W5457/5482/5495/14079/14063/1755/5246/5247 Load 8 AB/EH)
19 20 Waterloo-Portsmouth Harbour: 7424/7057 Woking-Petersfield

FRIDAY 20th NOVEMBER 1981:

Another weekend trip from Glasgow to visit my girlfriend in London, but this time I just had one night in London and then we both travelled to Birmingham on the Saturday to spend a night with her aunt, before I headed back to Glasgow from there on the Sunday. As I stepped on board the London train at Glasgow Central on the Friday evening, little did I know what fun lay in store!

07 55 Dumbarton Central-Motherwell: 314 211 Hyndland-Glasgow Central LL
16 03 Glasgow Central-Euston: 87 012 Glasgow Central-Carlisle (Consist: M81077/3329/3331/1973/12166/12036/12083/12111/9507 Load 9 AB/EH)

On arrival at Carlisle, 87012 was failed with an AWS defect....and look what was waiting in the middle road to take over!

16 03 Glasgow Central-Euston: 81 001 Carlisle-Euston

SUNDAY 20th NOVEMBER 1983:

Travelling Southwards from my grandmother's on Tees-side to start my guard's training at Brighton:

10 30 Newcastle-Kings Cross: 43 118 + 43 038 Eaglescliffe-Kings Cross via Northallerton avoiding line
Victoria Line: Kings Cross-Victoria
17 35 Victoria-Brighton: 7430/7381 Victoria-Brighton via Quarry
 

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Dalwhinnie is best viewed from the comfort of a train. I don't think I've ever set foot on the platforms there. You must be braver than me!

The Down train departed Blair Atholl 70 late, thus I had to curtail my trip at Dalwhinnie rather than go further north as originally planned.

visitor centre at the Distillery is very welcoming!

That would have been most appreciated in November 84 !
 

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20th November 1985

This was my only railway activity during my first term as a student - a visit to Swindon works. I don't have a list of what we saw there, but I remember that there was a Rat being cut up as we walked round.

86240 New St - Coventry 1O15
50032 Coventry - Reading 1O15
50002 Swindon - Gloucester 1B42
47553 Gloucester - Cheltenham 1B42

Being midweek and lectures the next day, we didn’t wait for the overnight back to Brum.

20th November 1989

Work trip...

86213 New St - Euston

20th November 2021

Some kettle action on the KWVR this afternoon...

45212 Keighley - Haworth

Shops & pub meal

45212 Haworth - Oxenhope
45212 Oxenhope - Keighley
 

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The passage of time has thankfully dimmed the memory. I suspect the conversation involved some grizzling noises from wife and / or kids, and some long-suffering sighs from me!

Fair enough, and I can imagine the idea of bailing out at Andover will have seemed like a good one just to keep them quiet!

I'd comment on it being a MU and HST trip, but I grew up on them so they're my bread and butter so to speak. Quite, if it wasn't for a show-stopping HST departure in 2003 I'd have not got into the hobby at all! So your trip sounds like fun to me!
 

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Fair enough, and I can imagine the idea of bailing out at Andover will have seemed like a good one just to keep them quiet!

I'd comment on it being a MU and HST trip, but I grew up on them so they're my bread and butter so to speak. Quite, if it wasn't for a show-stopping HST departure in 2003 I'd have not got into the hobby at all! So your trip sounds like fun to me!
Well I have quite a soft spot for HSTs myself. I grew up with them being introduced on the GW, and despite the fact that they displaced my beloved diesel-hydraulics, I always found them impressive (in performance, if not necessarily in comfort).

Meanwhile, only a small offering from me today:

Tuesday 21/11/78
47436 1733 York – Leeds
DMU Leeds – York
40078 1927 York – Leeds
DMU Leeds – Selby
47519 2047 Selby – York

Saturday 21/11/81
86247 2345 Euston – Wigan North Western
I had intended to alight at Crewe for the 04:00 to Birmingham New Street, but overdossed! Oh dear – alighting at Wigan North Western at 03xx on a cold November morning was not what might be considered a position of strength!
 

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Well I have quite a soft spot for HSTs myself.
I think you need to be sent for re-education!

alighting at Wigan North Western at 03xx on a cold November morning was not what might be considered a position of strength!
At least you got to enjoy extra mileage from the Can! I am now looking forward to reading how you rescued the situation tomorrow...
 

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SATURDAY 21st NOVEMBER 1981:

Having reached London the previous evening behind 81 001 all the way from Carlisle, it was now time for my girlfriend and I to head Northwards again to spend a night with her aunt in Birmingham:

14 10 Euston-Birmingham New Street: 87 015 (Consist: M9440/6174/5992/6049/6020/1652/3385/3312/3368/3310/81236 Load 11 AB/EH)

WEDNESDAY 21st NOVEMBER 2012:

Irish Ferries 11 50 Holyhead-Dublin Ferry Port: HSS "Jonothan Swift"
Bus: Dublin Ferry Port-Dublin Connolly
15 20 Dublin Connolly-Belfast Central: 207 (+ Driving Trailer 9004)
 

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I think you need to be sent for re-education!


At least you got to enjoy extra mileage from the Can! I am now looking forward to reading how you rescued the situation tomorrow...
Oh, I think you will be amused!
 

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Wednesday 22/11/78
45036 0915 York – Leeds
40078 1004 Leeds – York
40078 failed at York, being unable to create a brake. After some time it was replaced by 40160. Sadly I wasn’t valid north of York, so I couldn’t have 40160. Thankfully, there was an alternative to hand:
40013 1126 York – Leeds
Thence DMU to Harrogate, and to college.

Saturday 22/11/80
73122 2252 Waterloo – Basingstoke
… and so a rather rancid overnight begins …

Sunday 22/11/81
Having overdossed to Wigan North Western, I was stranded there, in the dark small hours of Sunday morning. Then, salvation: the 2300 Glasgow – Euston sleeper hauled by 81020 pulled to a halt on the back platform, this being an unadvertised stop to set down Scottish newspapers. (There was quite a big community of Scots in and around Wigan, because of the coal mining communities). I wandered up to the train, and a friendly Sleeping Car Attendant opened a door for me and invited me aboard. I explained I was trying to get to Crewe, and he opened up a sleeping compartment for me, and allowed me to remain there to Crewe.
81020 0410 Wigan North Western – Crewe
It would have been nice if there were newspapers to unload at Crewe too; alas not. We came to a stand middle road at Crewe, for a loco change. Oops. I donned my high-vis jacket, descended “gracefully” onto the ballast, crossed the tracks and vaulted (scrambled inelegantly) myself up over the platform edge to emerge on platform 6. Not a very dignified arrival!
The purpose of being out and about today was because the line was blocked between Birmingham New Street and Oxford, resulting in diversions of Paddington – Birmingham services, hopefully with some class 50s featuring. I moved south as soon as possible:
47479 0503 Crewe – Stafford
This was the 1935 Inverness – Euston, with 83009 being dragged dead to Stafford
83009 05xx Stafford – Rugby via Bushbury, Aston, Stechford
EMU Rugby – Birmingham New Street
47490 0930 Birmingham New Street – Wolverhampton via Perry Barr
I was going to Wolverhampton to pick up 50001 on the 1000 Wolverhampton – Paddington. Sadly 47490 was really struggling, and took 31 minutes to reach Wolverhampton, arriving just as 50001 departed in the opposite direction! Thankfully there was a backup move:
50033 1100 Wolverhampton – Birmingham New Street via Perry Barr
… where we met 50001 for the second time …
50001 1136 Birmingham New Street – Paddington via Hartlebury, Worcester, Oxford
The main course of the day was a little later, so there was time for a fill-in move:
50043 1633 Paddington – Reading
50017 1731 Reading – Paddington
Now for the main event:
50035 1900 Paddington – Coventry via Oxford, Bletchley, Rugby.
Yes, a class 50 on a service train on the Oxford – Bletchley line, then over the flyover and on down the WCML to Coventry. It’s safe to say that just about everybody who had an interest in class 50s was on this train. At Marsh Gibbons (what an evocative name) we crossed a 47-hauled train heading the other way, hauled by the infamous 47054. Much song-singing ensued!
86215 2209 Coventry – Euston

Monday 22/11/82
A trip to Scotland with my wife:
47524 1627 York – Newcastle
43086 + 43105 1907 Newcastle – Edinburgh
47001 2305 Edinburgh – Inverness via Stirling

Tuesday 22/11/83
Having worked an early shift in Leeds Control, I knew that 40015 was on the 1115 Bangor – Scarborough, so instead of going straight home I doubled back to Dewsbury to pick it up:
45123 1426 Leeds – Dewsbury
40015 1441 Dewsbury – York
Normally when working early shift I had to doss on a sofa in Leeds, but tonight I heard that 40057 was allocated to the 2300 Kings Cross – Edinburgh via Leeds, so instead of heading for Leeds I went south to Grantham to pick up the 40 …
47519 2234 York – Grantham

Thursday 22/11/84
Another after-work bash from Glasgow:
37017 1545 Glasgow Central – Carlisle via Kilmarnock
87016 2036 Carlisle – Glasgow Central
 

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Tuesday 22nd November 1983 – a short visit to Hamburg
This was my fifth trip in 1983 to watch Aberdeen in action in European football competitions. As three of the previous four had been by rail (Munich, Waterschei (Genk) and Beveren (near Antwerp), plus I had taken two touring holidays also by rail, I had exhausted my 1983 allocation of FIP Coupon Tickets (free passes), at least for the countries involved in this trip, and consequently this trip was made on a set of handwritten paper reduced rate Privilege Tickets (50%), which I had purchased in advance (by post) from the then BR International/Sealink Travel Centre at London Victoria at a total cost of £31.48 including cover charge of £1 the receipt for which was included within the ticket cover. As I still have these tickets, I have included the details and costings for interest.

Tuesday 22nd November 1983
07.10 Hook of Holland to Hamburg – CANCELLED DUE TO INDUSTRIAL ACTION

Having arrived in Hook of Holland on that excellent ship Koningen Beatrix I had in my hand a seat reservation (an additional £1) on the above train plus priv. singles Hook to Bentheim Gr. (frontier) 237 kilometres at a cost of £4.90, and Bentheim Gr. to Hamburg 391km for £7.24.
Due to the Industrial Action the only long distance train running that morning was the one to Cologne (and perhaps beyond) via Venlo, and the advice from staff at the Hook was to travel on this for onward connections in Germany – I don’t recall if this was hauled by one of the former Woodhead route EM2s (numbered 15xx by NS) on this occasion but I did travel behind these several times on the route via Venlo.
07.xx Hook to Monchengladbach, 10.28 M’gladbach to Duisburg, 11.xx Duisburg to Hamburg Hbf (the last of these may have involved a cross platform change at Dortmund but my memory fails in that respect (the then hourly ICs to Hamburg and Hanover alternated between the two main routes between Cologne and Dortmund with cross platform interchange at both)). I can confirm the time of 10.28 ex M’gladbach as the DB conductor had endorsed the cover of my ticket with the time and platform (3).
S Bahn Hamburg Hbf to Pinneberg
SV Hamburg 0-0 Aberdeen 0 – UEFA Super Cup first leg. The ‘Super Cup’ in those days was not an actual cup (as it is today) but actually a plaque which was duly presented to Aberdeen and paraded in a lap of honour after the second leg victory a couple of weeks later. It may be difficult to imagine in these days of the mega rich (or in some cases in mega debt) football superpowers that in 1983 Aberdeen were voted European Team of the Year by the prestigious France Football magazine, and defeated both Bayern Munich and Real Madrid in that year. I very much doubt their record of being the only Scottish team to win the Super Cup and hence the only Scottish Team to win two European trophies will ever be challenged.
S Bahn Pinneberg to Hamburg Hbf
23.45 Hamburg Hbf to Bonn Hbf
– Priv. single £11.72 (496km) – todays normal price single is 97.60 euro! This was the Kiel to Bonn overnight on which I had booked a sleeper (£13.50) to Bonn (arrive 05.50) in order to avoid an even earlier arrival time in Cologne. and I can only assume this train did not include couchettes as 6 hrs 5 mins occupation of sleeper berth fell well beyond my rule of thumb that normally minimum of 8 hours was required to justify the significantly higher cost of sleeper where couchettes were available.

Wednesday 23nd November 1983
06.xx Bonn to Cologne, 07.xx Cologne to Oostende –
priv. single Bonn to Aachen Sud Gr. £2.50 (107km), and Aachen Sud Gr. to Oostende £4.12. The latter train would no doubt have had the regular banking assistance out of Liege and possibly also out of Aachen where the heavier trains would get a push from a DB diesel (wiring being SNCB 3kv). The latter ticket was from printed stock and does not show a distance (approx. 270km), although in error I had been issued a 50% reduction where the normal reduction for SNCB was 75% (50% reduction for retired staff). I do have other SNCB Privs. from this era which were issued at 75% reduction, including one from printed stock from Oostende to Sterpenich (frontier) from 1985 for £3.34 although that does state a distance of 330km.
Victoria must have had a fairly large range of priv. rate printed stock and I also have one from Aachen Sud Gr. To Puttgarden Mitte See (the ticket frontier between DB and DSB).
Ferry – or Jetfoil - Oostende to Dover and hence northwards to be back at work in Scotland on the Thursday – my travels earlier in the year meant I did not have much leave left!

Apologies if this is a bit rambling (and of absolutely no interest to some readers) and contains minimal detail of the trains actually taken, but having recently rediscovered hundreds if not thousands of tickets I thought the ticketing and costs might be of interest to some.
 

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