West Coast Motors & Borders Buses

[overthewater]

Nothing about dayticket on website last time i checked , is that valid to Carlisle or available on bus?

https://www.bordersbuses.co.uk/timetables

FARES
Borders Buses ticket options includes single, return, Day, Weekly and 10 Journey tickets.

Mobile app tickets currently available include discounted Full Network single (£4.50), Unlimited Day (£7.99) and an Unlimited Weekly (£39.99).

The Borders Buses app is available at theiOS App Store and Google Play (Android).

For any fare information please get in touch via telephone: 01896 754350 (Galashiels) or 01289 308719 (Berwick) or email: [email protected]. Alternatively, popular tickets are available for download.

 

[route101]

https://www.bordersbuses.co.uk/timetables

Cheers must a recent launch of the app . I took the X95 from Carlisle earlier today , the 1340 couldnt leave as the door wouldnt shut , driver tried everything (was a 61 plate ex nat express coach ) eventually we all had to get the 1440 which was the 67 plate hybrid coach . Scenic ride up the A7 .

 

[Whiteway215]

Have all the First vehicles that were on loan / hire gone back now?

 

[overthewater]

Have all the First vehicles that were on loan / hire gone back now?

YES:
These logs were from Jan from daveballntyn55 who posts on Yahoo groups: Send ALL praise and thanks to him>>.

A few changes over the festive period have seen the final vehicles returned to First (the agreement was that that the vehicles loan term was only until December 2017) and 6 routes and 5 vehicles acquired from BARC Travel (Hughes & Gibbs) Peebles.

The final vehicles returning to First were 20302/7, 32672, 65749; the 2 coaches were returned a few days after the schools finished (21-12-17) and the buses a few days after that but all were gone by 31-12-17.

As far as I understand 4 Solos (YJ11 OHW, YJ57 EJA, SLZ8614, VIA1647) and 1 E200 (MX13 KTK) have been acquired with the BARC routes 54,74,90/1/3,P32 which have a PVR of 4 buses; 54 and 74 are worked by the same bus as are the 90 and P32.
I haven't been up to Peebles as yet but the 54,74 Galashiels routes are being worked by 11119 YJ11 OHW which has had the BARC Travel names removed and Borders Buses names added. The normal vehicle used was (10614?) SLZ8614 and this was at Gala depot today with Borders Buses fleetnames but I couldn't see a fleetnumber to confirm if it was 10614.
Work is being carried out on the ex BARC vehicles before entering service with Borders Buses plus I understand (11322?) MX13 KTK has a failed engine; the fleetnumbers I assume will be the next in the series which going by my records may be (unless other added vehicles carry them) 10310? VIA1647, 10614? SLZ8614, 10729? YJ57 EJA, 11322? MX13 KTK (11119 YJ11 OHW is confirmed by my sighting).
To cover for unavailable vehicles (including 11710 acc damaged, 11704 burnt out, 11228 engine rebuild) on loan from Berwick is 10701 MX07 NTU and from Glasgow Citybus is 11202 YX61 ELU plus 11714 YY17 GSO has returned from paint float duties at St Boswells with repaints stopped just now (Versas 11301/2 were completed before the end of the year) . Also seen during the week was a MB / MCV (number unknown) operating an X95 whilst on loan from St Boswells.
To confuse matters further Craig vehicle 11017 YJ60 GGX is also present at the moment whilst receiving MOT prep but is not being used in service.

By my calculations fleet strength at Gala should now be 48 vehicles -
Known fleet at January 2018 was

10301/2 YN03 NHX/Y (Vo /Pn) (2)
10310? VIA1647 (Oe Solo) (1)
10614? SLZ8614 (Oe Solo) (1)
10727/8 YN57 BVZ/WU (Vo/Pn) (2)
10729? YJ57 EJA (Oe Solo) (1)
11909 LX59 CLU (Sca/Sca) (1)
11001 BK10 MFP (Vo/Wt) (1)
11021 LX59 CMU (Sca/Sca) (1)
11115 YR61 RTU (Sca/Sca) (1)
11116/7 FJ61 EWH/M (Vo/Co) (2)
11119 YJ11 OHW (Oe Solo) (1)
11226-9 BF12 KWW/V, BF62 UYS/T (Vo/Wt) (4)
11322? MX13 KTK (AD E20D) (1)
11514 YN15 EKF (Sca/Ir) (1)
11619-21 YN66 BBV/X/Z (Sca/AD) (3)
11702-8* YJ17 FWS-Y (Oe MC) (7) 11704 burnt out*
11709-20 SN17 MUA-C/E/O, YY17 GSO/U/V/Z/TF/U/Z (AD E20D) (12)
11725-8 YJ17 FZA-D (Oe MC) (4)
11729 YX67URP (Vo/Pn) (1)
Total 47
41105 YR61 RVM (Sca/Sca) (1) on loan

Livery as at Jan 2018
White - 10301/2,11909/021/115/7/619-21/702-14 (22)
previous BARC liveries 10310/614/729/1119/322 (5)
Yellow - 10728 (1)
London Red - 41105 (1)
Group Red/Cream (Blue) - 10727, 11001/116/226-9/514/715-20/5-9 (19)
Total 48
All vehicles except 10728, 11117, 41105 carry Borders Buses names; 10310/729,11322 ex BARC unconfirmed as yet

Dave

Noted at Edinburgh bus station on Mon 22-1-18
Borders Buses 11714 YY17 GSO on layover from route 253 Edinburgh - Berwick
(11714 currently swapped with 11504 YJ15 AAY which is operating former BARC routes at Peebles)

Noted Galashiels Thurs 25-1-18
Gala based 11716 YY17 GSV operating route 73 (on loan to StBoswells); short E20D 11612 SN16 OXU appears to have been swapped and is operating former BARC routes at Peebles.

On loan 11605 YS16 LMK heading Southbound out of Gala with Kelso Races on destination.
Gala based 11718 YY17 GTF operating the 1050 route 60 working to Berwick possibly with St Boswells based driver but certainly a St Boswells worked route.

11118 FJ61 EXL another Vo B9R Co in Borders Buses livery on layover at Gala from school route S03 I suspect.
10702 MX57 CAE Oe Solo on loan from Glasgow Citybus on route 70
10614 SLZ8614 Oe Solo (ex BARC) on former BARC routes 54/74.
11116 FJ61 EWH Vo B9R Co in Borders Buses colours operating on X70/X62 working substituting 11514 YN15 EKF
11119 YJ11 OHW Oe Solo (ex BARC) on route 71
11115 YR61 RVM still on loan from Scania

Noted Sun 28-1-18 on trip to Gala depot, BARC Innerleithen and Peebles car parks

At depot
10729 YJ57 EJA Oe Solo (ex BARC) fleetnumber confirmed by sight
11710 SN17 MUB accident damage repaired ready to return to service
11504 YJ15 AAY Oe Solo on loan from Berwick for Peebles area

At BARC Innerleithen OC

S286NRB Oe Solo, KIG3520 (exT719JHE) Sca VH, NX53 DZV Fd Tt Fd on hire form Cooks StBoswells, WX55 HWY & WX54 PWU MB UVM,
Also there VIA1647 Oe So (not yet passed to Borders Buses) and CE52 UWW Oe So being broken up.

At Borders Buses Peebles outstation (Edinburgh Road car park)
Gala based 11717/9 YY17 GSZ/TU, 11514 YN15 EKF
StBoswells based 11612 SN16 OXU

On loan from Glasgow Citybus 10702 MX57 CAE
At Kingsmeadows car park : BARC Fd Tt Fd GS51 BUS, YM57 UCL, YM15 UYJ

 

[christopherrfc]

have noticed borders buses have registered a new service 777 tweedbank station to melrose

 

[Volvodart]

have noticed borders buses have registered a new service 777 tweedbank station to melrose

"Service will operate Saturday only on the day of the Melrose 7's event on 26/02/18 and on similar dates in subsequent years as dictated by the Melrose 7's event."

 

[overthewater]

Some changes from May, One had hoped for a more simple network patten. New

PM1121403/28 Registered
BORDERS BUSES LTD
Route: Peebles Eastgate to Edinburgh Torphichen Street
Service number: X70
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 May 2018

PM1121403/48 Registered
BORDERS BUSES LTD
Route: Galashiels Transport Interchange to Galashiels Transport Interchange via Netherdale, Colleges
Service number: 74
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 May 2018

PM1121403/49 Registered
BORDERS BUSES LTD
Route: Galashiels Transport Interchange to Galashiels Transport Interchange via High Street, Balmoral, Asda
Service number: 54
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 May 2018

PM1121403/35 Registered
BORDERS BUSES LTD
Route: Galashiels, Transport Interchange to Bannerfield, Selkirk Bridge Steet via Kingsknowes
Service number: 73
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 May 2018

PM0002310/19 Registered
BUSKERS LTD
Route: Galashiels Bus Station to Lauder Cross via Borders General Hospital, Melrose, Newstead
Service number: 61
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 May 2018


Also some fares have gone up in price by 5% https://www.bordersbuses.co.uk/images/Fare info.pdf But if you read its Facebook page, some passengers are not happy and believe its alot higher...

 

[Volvodart]

The high spec Enviro400MMC demonstrator is currently being used on the X62.

 

[Volvodart]

https://www.bordersbuses.co.uk/your-bus-service

UPDATES
NETWORK CHANGES
Service 71
Could all customers please note service 71; Galashiels to Melrose via Langlee will soon be withdrawn. The last day of operation will be Saturday 12 May 2018.

Unfortunately, there has been little demand for the service.

We appreciate some customers will be disappointed by this decision. However, we would ask them to recognise we cannot allocate resources to services that are poorly used.

To ensure we maintain a bus service in Langlee we will adjust the route of our service 74.

From Monday 14 May, service 74 shall depart the Galashiels Transport Interchange via Currie Road ASDA, Netherdale to Queen Elizabeth Square.

Two routes will be operated, one via Huddersfield street/Borders College and the other via Tweed Road, Currie Road ASDA and Netherdale to Queen Elizabeth Square.

This will be an alternative hourly service between 0800 – 1700 Monday – Saturday.

The new service 74 timetable is available for download for our timetables page.

Please note: Lowood Bridge re-opens at the beginning of June and service 60, 67 and 68 would revert to its normal route between Galashiels – Langlee – Melrose via Borders General Hospital.


Service 72

Could customers please note on Sunday 13 May 2018, Scottish Borders Council will withdraw its service 72; Melrose to Bannerfield via Borders General Hospital (BGH).

We would like to assure customers journeys to the above locations can still be made by traveling on service X95 (Edinburgh to Carlisle via Hawick and Galashiels) and 73 (Galashiels to Bannerfield). Both routes will allow connections at Galashiels Transport Interchange for forward travel to BGH.

From Sunday 20 May, service 73 will run five journeys each way between Selkirk Bannerfield and Galashiels for connections to and from the BGH. SBC information leaflets are available on bus or at Galashiels Transport Interchange.

For alternative bus services please see below timetables:

Monday - Friday timetable

Saturday timetable

Sunday timetable

Tickets:

Through tickets for Selkirk/Hawick to BGH will be available from either service 73 and X95.

The new service 73 timetable is available for download from our timetables page.

Tickets between Selkirk and Borders General Hospital:
Single £3.20
Return £4.80

Tickets between Hawick and Borders General Hospital:
Single £5.60
Return £10.10

Borders Buses app tickets*:
Single £4.50
24 Hour £7.99
Weekly £39.99

*Travel across the full network, no exceptions. Day and Weekly offer unlimited travel.

Service 54
To compliment service 74, changes to the bus times on service 54; Galashiels to Balmoral Road will take effect from Monday 14 May 2018.

New service 54 timetable available for download from our timetables page.



Service X70
Changes to the Peebles section of service X70 will take effect from Monday 14 May.

To maintain reliability, meet demand and tackle congestion issues (mainly parked cars), service X70 will now only serve Whitehaugh Park and East Gate.

New service X70 timetable available for download from our timetables page.

 

[overthewater]

Surprised that 72 coming off, It was over bused on some sections. maybe there should have a small solo connecting with the 73 just before Kingsknowes, Roundabout, with it could run the hospital. For the over 45mins? im sure something can be found.

 

[DunsBus]

Surprised that 72 coming off, It was over bused on some sections. maybe there should have a small solo connecting with the 73 just before Kingsknowes, Roundabout, with it could run the hospital. For the over 45mins? im sure something can be found.

The 72 is coming off because Scottish Borders Council have withdrawn their support for the service. Passengers from Hawick and Selkirk travelling to the BGH will take the X95 to Galashiels Interchange and change there to the X62 (through fares are being offered). Selkirk passengers also have the option of taking the 73 to Galashiels Interchange.

Busker's service 61 will be rerouted in Melrose to provide a replacement service for the Dingleton Road area of the town.

 

[overthewater]

As expected services are happening in 2nd July. Stuff has started to appear on vosa.

 

[overthewater]

• PM1121403/33 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Langholm High Street to Carlisle English Street
  Service number: X95
  Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/32 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Hawick Buccleuch Street to Langholm High Street
  Service number: 95 (X95)
  Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/31 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Newtongrange Main Street to Galashiels Transport Interchange
  Service number: X95 (95A)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/30 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Galashiels Transport Interchange to Buccleuch Street, Hawick
  Service number: 95 (95A, X95)
  Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/29 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Edinburgh Bus Station to Newtongrange Main Street via Main Street Newtongrange
  Service number: X95 (95A)
  Serice type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/11 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Haddington to Edinburgh Bus Station via The Jewel
  Service number: 253
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  
  
• PM1121403/10 Registered
  BORDERS BUSES LTD
  Route: Grantshouse to Haddington via Dunbar, East Linton
  Service number: 253
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 02 Jul 2018
  

 

[Volvodart]

https://bordersbuses.co.uk/your-bus-service

NETWORK CHANGES
On Monday 02 July 2018 we will be making amendments to our bus network.

The changes are based on service demand and maintaining reliability. The following provides a breakdown of each service, plus some frequently asked questions relating to bus services in general.

WHAT CHANGES ARE BEING MADE?
Service 62 (Galashiels to Clovenfords)
Two evening journeys between Galashiels and Clovenfords, Monday to Saturday, will no longer operate. View new timetable.

Service X95 (Carlisle to Edinburgh via Hawick and Edinburgh)
We are introducing an additional early evening journey from Edinburgh to Galashiels, 1650 Monday to Friday and 1655 on a Saturday.

We are also adding two early morning journeys, 0610 from Galashiels to Edinburgh on a Saturday and 0815 from Galashiels to Hawick on a Sunday.

The last journey (Monday to Saturday) from Edinburgh to Galashiels has moved from 2300 to 2225.

The last journeys from Galashiels to Hawick Monday to Thursday (0025) and Friday and Saturday (0025 0055) have been withdrawn.

The X95 departing Galashiels for Hawick (Monday to Saturday) will no longer serve the BGH at 1955.

For alternative travel Monday to Thursday from BGH to Hawick and Selkirk, customers are advised to travel on service X62 2022 to Galashiels Transport Interchange. Connections can then be made to Hawick and Selkirk on service X95 2055.

For Friday and Saturdays, customers are advised to travel on service 67 1959 to Galashiels Transport Interchange. Connections can then be made to Hawick and Selkirk on service X95 2025.

On a Sunday a through service from Edinburgh to Carlisle has been introduced.

Timings have been amended for better rail connections.

We have amended the departures timings of our early morning and evening journeys. View new timetable.

Service 235 (Berwick to St Abbs via Eyemouth and Coldingham)
An extra journey - 1600 Monday to Saturday - from Berwick has been added. This returns from Coldingham at 1630.

Minor amends to timings have been made due to the reduction in running time between Eyemouth and Coldingham. View new timetable.

Service 253 (Berwick to Edinburgh via Dunbar and Haddington)
Due to poor usage Coldingham, Dunglass and Crownhill (Southbound) will no longer be served.

Customers in Coldingham have the option to travel on service 235 for local and connecting journeys. Ayton has now been added to the route.

The Berwick to Innerwick section of the route has moved from hourly to two hourly. An hourly service remains Dunbar to Edinburgh. View new timetable.

Service 267/464 (Berwick to Wooler)
To improve punctuality we have made some amends to the timings of this service.

Both services have been extended to serve Morrisons, North Road. View new 267 timetable.View new 464 timetable.

Service B1 (Berwick town service)
Despite on-going communication regarding the low usage of the B1 in the evening, the service continues to be underused and we have been left with no alternative than to remove the evening journeys. No change to day service. View new timetable.

 

[christopherrfc]

has west coast motors taken over scotline tours seen a picture of a scotline coach in the west coast livery

 

[overthewater]

It was reported over on Facebook because a bus brokedown three jounreys on the 253 were not operated over the course of the day. Its seems even the Berwick depot was so short it had nothing to send out...

 

[route101]

Seen a borders bus in service in Glasgow , think it was 17 service

 

[overthewater]

Once again another one of the 253 journeys failed today because of optare single decker, mind you the Berwick depot doesn't seem to look after its buses... There is a major house development going on at Haddington right on the main bus route which will surly benefit this and the X7.

 

[Volvodart]

The Citaro hybrid has moved to Borders for trials on the X95 Hawick to Edinburgh section.

 

[Bungle965]

Have West Coast Motors got a new livery?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/76433266@N04/45587093861/in/photostream/ (Not my photo)
Sam

 

[Gingerbus1991]

Have West Coast Motors got a new livery?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/76433266@N04/45587093861/in/photostream/ (Not my photo)
Sam

Yes they do.

 

[overthewater]

Why does the accounts of this company run Jan - Dec? up to Dec 2017 the company still made a profit just...

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Why does the accounts of this company run Jan - Dec

Why? Have they changed?

 

[overthewater]

Yes the most recent two run on the above patten,, before that it was Feb- Jan. 2016 accounts run for 11 months.

 

[317 forever]

Have West Coast Motors got a new livery?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/76433266@N04/45587093861/in/photostream/ (Not my photo)
Sam

I can imagine this being the next Lothian Buses livery.

 

[christopherrfc]

Fairline coaches now operating under the scotline tours name

 

[awsnews]

Recent service cancellations for Glasgow will mean that from after the Easter holiday the Glasgow Citybus operation will be down to just the 15, 17 and Station interlink service. Even the 142 appears to be going, that was the last remnant of the services taken over with the John Morrow business.

 

[smtglasgow]

Glasgow Citybus have grown and shrunk a few times over the years, but it always seems like a well-run operation. All the de-registered stuff is tendered. Going by the end date (July – the time SPT tend to retender) it’s more likely they’ve lost the work than given it up, but it’s possible they’ve just decided to focus on their strongest commercial routes and Citylink.

 

[83G/84D]

Anyone able to share a Borders Buses fleet list please?

 

[awsnews]

Anyone able to share a Borders Buses fleet list please?

There is one in the major operators section here:
http://scotbus.com/?p=553
Not fully up to date but a good starting point