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Cambridge South new station construction progress.
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jammmmmsssssss
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Is this Google Earth Pro? Because that has satellite imagery before it's released to Google Maps and past imagery too
I'll need to check on my computer at some point
TheDavibob
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Apologies, Cambridge appears to have returned to 2021 since I made that post! (This was just normal Google Maps, but everything has definitely disappeared again for me)
EDIT: some bits of Cambridge are back to pre-2015, so who knows what's going on.
EDIT: some bits of Cambridge are back to pre-2015, so who knows what's going on.
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Cambridge Independent are reporting that Cambridge South has been delayed until early next year.
https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/cambridge-south-railway-station-opening-delayed-9405368/ (Apologies for paywall)
https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/cambridge-south-railway-station-opening-delayed-9405368/ (Apologies for paywall)
windjabbers
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Basically says delay is down to ECML timetable changes and the Cambridge signalling upgrade project.
BW DC
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/lack-of-train-crew-on-great-northern.276721/page-6#post-7172997 is a thread on the problems running the Kings Cross-Kings Lynn trains to time with the current timetable, without adding extra stops.
Which is why the opening of Cambridge South is delayed by the ECML timetable change, which will retime the Kings Cross-Kings Lynn trains.
windjabbers
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I can see why the Kings Cross services need to wait for the ECML timetable change but not the Greater Anglia or Cross country services. Why not do a soft opening with GA and XC services starting and then GN and TL comming later?
BW DC
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That's down to the other reason for the delay, the signalling work has not been completed.
jammmmmsssssss
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Cambridge resignalling phase 2 is happening at Christmas
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Timetables are interlinked. GN shares tracks with GA and XC from Shepreth Branch Jn to Ely North Jn. Its not easy to just change one operator without changing others as well.
Indeed, and 'not easy' is rather underselling it!
Today's Times has a long article (p15) bemoaning the fact that there will be very little car parking at Cambridge South. It contains no new information AFAICS. Here for subscribers.
Someone must have used their influence to get this published but why today, why at all?
Clearly it is not well placed for park-and-ride commuters to London but then nowhere S of Cambridge is, hence the proliferation of parking on the muddy verges near Ashwell & Morden which is now looking really scruffy. I would have thought Foxton would be quite a good site for this.
Someone must have used their influence to get this published but why today, why at all?
Clearly it is not well placed for park-and-ride commuters to London but then nowhere S of Cambridge is, hence the proliferation of parking on the muddy verges near Ashwell & Morden which is now looking really scruffy. I would have thought Foxton would be quite a good site for this.
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I haven't read the Times piece but it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain why car parking isn't being provided here.
Both Cambridge North and Cambridge stations have significant car parks for those that need them. Whittlesford and Royston have car parks for those living in rural locations south of the city.
Both Cambridge North and Cambridge stations have significant car parks for those that need them. Whittlesford and Royston have car parks for those living in rural locations south of the city.
iamterry
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There was a proposal for a park and ride at Foxton, immediately to the south of the station which a fair bit of planning went into but as far as I know, this has now been cancelled.
Yes, for a while I used to commute from Cottenham by driving to Royston, it was quicker to drive there than into central Cambridge. There was an 0808 non-stop arr KGX 0848 which was brilliant for getting work done. 1T09 and 1T11 seem to do it today in a minute less, despite the stop at Letchworth.
Foxton would not have helped me then but as I now live in central Cambridge with good access to the M11 it would suit me well now, North is such a miserable windswept place.
Not just The Times. It's all over the news today.
The Independent
The Telegraph
BBC
Daily Mail
Forbes
A few examples there but the full list is several dozen long. It's getting a lot of coverage.
The Independent
The Telegraph
BBC
Daily Mail
Forbes
A few examples there but the full list is several dozen long. It's getting a lot of coverage.
It's obviously a co-ordinated publicity campaign then. But why and on whose behalf?
The decisions have already been taken long since and are not going to be changed now. The eco-amelioration steps seem reasonable. The rationale for not providing parking is sound, the station is designed primarily for inbound passengers (though I suppose there is a small catchment for which it might be attractive for outbound pax arriving by foot/cycle/bus).
What are ppl reading the articles supposed to do? I live in the area, use the railway, have appointments from time to time at Addenbrooke's and I still don't know.
I seem to remember that there was a proposal to expand the parking provision at Whittlesford to make it a transport hub for the south of Cambridge and supporting commuting into Cambridge and London (for the Liverpool St line).
I'm sure that all of these "local residents" who are supposedly unhappy about there no being a car park would be even more unhappy if it was attracting hundreds of cars each day onto their residential roads. Best people know from the start that there is no parking.
I assume its to tell people who know that a new station is being built, that it won't have a car park. They don't want people drive to one of the hospital car parks and then get the train to somewhere else.
If you want to go to Addenbrookes by train, then you can, or you can drive to a hospital and park in one of the multi-storey car parks.
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A bit too keen I think, I think he will need to go back later.
This is mostly correct. The main purpose of the new station is to reduce congestion on the roads around the Biomedical Campus, not add to it.
The catchment area for cycling to the new station is quite large, especially in Trumpington, which is why it has a large cycle park.
The efforts of Network Rail and their contractors to minimise temporary damage and permanent loss in Hobsons Park have been exemplary.
I imagine most ppl who cycle there would want to go south by train so from the E side; once you have got on the bike you might as well stay on it to get to the city centre or indeed the central station rather than getting a northbound train.
However with 500 spaces on both E and W sides they seem to be hedging their bets rather. I suppose there will be a proportion who want to go to the Science Park or points North, but as housing is generally more expensive on the S side that doesn't make much sense either. Am I missing something?
DynamicSpirit
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Two thoughts watching that video.
1. Is the building designed by the same architects who designed Abbey Wood station? The shape of the building and the use of wooden panels look remarkably similar.
2. Why didn't they design the station to have two island platforms? That would have been much more passenger-friendly than what they are actually building, since it would mean all trains in the same direction would depart from the same island, and I would have thought would have been no more expensive either: Fewer platforms to build lifts and other stuff for, and perhaps no need to reroute the existing tracks round a platform.