Cark Conundrum?

[nw1]

There is an off road track for most of the distance, though hiking shoes/boots would be prudent. Not for race day dress!

I once went to Cartmel races (a colleague's birthday bash, staying in a hotel in Grange-over-Sands so I used that station, not the one under discussion). It was very informal (and my colleague said as such beforehand), there was no formal dress expected at all, and given the muddiness of the actual race ground, hiking shoes would be absolutely appropriate for it!

They have been chopped down. I think that there is a plan to remove the coniferous trees in the area. I got a shock in May when I walked that way. It was a like a scene of devastation from Ypres in WW1.

I can't remember the exact geography now, but I do remember from staying in Grange that there were some extensive woods on the side of a hill above there, which I think were coniferous. You emerged on quite a significant (open) summit with extensive views north to the Lake District. I think the summit was roughly NW of Grange and NE of Cark. Not sure if these woods are the same ones?

 

[David Burrows]

I would call it "Cark and Flookburgh", it is literally between the two.

Ordnance Survey maps call it Cark & Cartmel station.

 

[Pinus contorta]

But, more importantly, is the Engine Inn still open and serving very hot curries?

Not sure about the curries but the pub was still open last week.

 

[LWB]

The name "Cartmel" applies to both Cartmel village and the Cartmel peninsula.
Cartmel village does not have a station.
Cark village is in the Cartmel peninsula, and is properly known as Cark-in-Cartmel.
Naming this way is common in North Lancs and Westmorland, hence names ending
in-Cartmel
in-Furness
in-Lonsdale
in-Kendal
by-Bowland
in-Craven

"Cark-in-Cartmel" is the full village name and should be the station name


A coffin route if I remember correctly

This….. exactly this. Anything else is foreign wibble.

 

[notverydeep]

Define 'natural state' - do moors count as 'natural' or not, I wonder?

Mostly not, they were cleared of the trees that would naturally be there (since the retreat of the glaciers from Great Britain). The uplands were cleared, including those near the station that could accurately be called “Cark in Cartmel & Cartmel” through the Iron Age, probably to use the wood as fuel, but possibly with the hope of some creating viable grazing in some areas. Allowing gradual rewilding of a fair bit of moorland would hugely improve biodiversity and also capture Co2.

Cartmel Village Shop sticky toffee pudding. Yummy! As they sometimes say on YouTube #notanad…

 

[nw1]

Mostly not, they were cleared of the trees that would naturally be there (since the retreat of the glaciers from Great Britain). The uplands were cleared, including those near the station that could accurately be called “Cark in Cartmel & Cartmel” through the Iron Age, probably to use the wood as fuel, but possibly with the hope of some creating viable grazing in some areas. Allowing gradual rewilding of a fair bit of moorland would hugely improve biodiversity and also capture Co2.

Cartmel Village Shop sticky toffee pudding. Yummy! As they sometimes say on YouTube #notanad…

Not referring to the Cark area specifically (which is rather low-lying for the north, the hills are only up to 200m or so if I remember right) but I always find it strange that moorland or open rocky terrain is not the "natural" state of exposed uplands. Given how windy, and, at times cold and snowy the northern, Welsh and Scottish moors are, I'm surprised many trees would survive up there!

I always imagine that large forests would require a fairly benign climate (not too windy or exposed) to survive, and most forested mountain ranges are in climates more benign than that of Northern England or Scotland.

 

[Ken H]

Not referring to the Cark area specifically (which is rather low-lying for the north, the hills are only up to 200m or so if I remember right) but I always find it strange that moorland or open rocky terrain is not the "natural" state of exposed uplands. Given how windy, and, at times cold and snowy the northern, Welsh and Scottish moors are, I'm surprised many trees would survive up there!

I always imagine that large forests would require a fairly benign climate (not too windy or exposed) to survive, and most forested mountain ranges are in climates more benign than that of Northern England or Scotland.

I think you need to redefine how you think of forest. I think upland northern britain before the ice age would have been mostly covered with hawthorn and similar. It seems to cope with very thin soils and wind. The trees would be more bushes than what we normally think of as a tree.
Thats up to about 2000ft. Not sure above that.

 

[karenkresgs]

Although I am from the United States of America, I often visit the UK! And there on the sign of the station at the present time "Сark" is written like that! If I'm not mistaken of course))))

 

[Elecman]

Although I am from the United States of America, I often visit the UK! And there on the sign of the station at the present time "Сark" is written like that! If I'm not mistaken of course))))

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[SargeNpton]

Although I am from the United States of America, I often visit the UK! And there on the sign of the station at the present time "Сark" is written like that! If I'm not mistaken of course))))

Depends whereabouts on the station you are. See my picture on post #24 in this thread.