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With the driver training over, today saw the latest chapter in the ongoing story of loco-hauled services to Great Yarmouth. Over the years everything from a single 20 (20304) to a Hoover (50050) have worked timetabled service trains to the coast, but as yet no class 68s have done so. However thanks to the rather unfortunate incident suffered by 170204, AGA decided to hire in an additional rake of Mk IIs and use 68s. The use of the Cats was even advertised in the local paper, thus generating more than the usual attention.

As my office is 5 minutes walk from Norwich station, I decided that I'd cover the first departure at 06:52 and the 07:30 return from the coast, before heading off to the office for a days work. Not wishing to risk an early morning bus move, I walked the three and a half miles from home through the deserted streets to arrive at the station in good time. On the way in I had bumped into one of the local "characters" renown for "duff" gen (duff as in wildly inaccurate not Brush type 4), who stated that the Cats weren't out. He was of course totally wrong as platform 6 was occupied by 68023 leading 68016. With a quick breakfast purchased, I headed over and after a quick photo the doors were duly unlocked and a few passengers clambered aboard.

Dead on time, the unmistakeable sound of a Cat in full cry heralded a rapid departure. A BBC Radio Norfolk reporter was on board and after an interview with Jonathan Denby from AGA, listeners were treated to the sound of 68023 from the front vestibule - just what you want with your cornflakes. Rather typically the line of questioning focused mainly on the age of the Mk IIs rather then the comfort afforded by seats that actually line up with the windows and give plenty of legroom. Anyway I was too busy concentrating on the thrash to worry about the stock. With only 3 coaches and 68016 on the rear, the starts away from the intermediate stops were pretty quick to say the least. Several other enthusiasts were noted taking a rather unusual route to work, as the normal commute to work took in a trip to the coast. Pretty soon we were running parallel to the Acle Straight where we overtook an Enviro 400 on the X1 before arriving a few minutes early at 0722.

Photos were duly taken of 68023 at the buffer stops before attention turned to the return run with 68016 Fearless in charge. My mind soon turned back to the events of July 1999 when another loco named Fearless (50050 of course) did this same run. On balance I guess the 50 was the most hellfire, but only just as the phenomenal acceleration away from station stops at Acle, Lingwood, Brundall and Brundall Gardens by 68016 was music to my ears. On leaving Brundall Gardens for the last leg into Norwich I headed for the nearest window, to savour the thrash from close quarters. All loco hauled trains have a 20 mph slack at a bridge close to MP 3.5 which means that you get a real dose of thrash as the train roars under the Norwich Southern Bypass half a mile on. "Fearless" didn't disappoint with a raucous romp into Norwich through Whitlingham Jn and past Crown Point Shed where 90014 was noted having a rest. On arrival back at Norwich, there was time to witness the departure of the 0809 to Great Yarmouth with "Achilles" in full flight, before I sourced a coffee from Costa, which was conveniently on my route to work. I thus arrived at my desk for 9:00 having ticked off two more Cats and a first trip to the coast with them. With 68019 lurking in the Royal Dock as well, I might be doing another trip before long!!

Andrew
 
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Good grief your doing well with locos to Yarmouth! Sounds like a very fun morning spin there and I'm sure it got the blood pumping before work!
 

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Very good read, nice start to the morning that. Nice to know we have another member among the Cat Fan Club.

Why would anyone give out duff gen? They just make themselves look stupid, there's always one though. Good job you knew better.

Has there ever been a more popular new loco? Have to say I'm a big fan of them. I'd love to have a trip behind one up to and through Severn Tunnel, imagine the noise on that.
 

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Very good read, nice start to the morning that. Nice to know we have another member among the Cat Fan Club.

Why would anyone give out duff gen? They just make themselves look stupid, there's always one though. Good job you knew better.

Has there ever been a more popular new loco? Have to say I'm a big fan of them. I'd love to have a trip behind one up to and through Severn Tunnel, imagine the noise on that.

Thanks - I've come across this character before. He's well known around Norwich for this, so I tend to ignore him as a matter of course. The Severn Tunnel would be a move and a half - especially if there was a signal check in the middle!

Good grief your doing well with locos to Yarmouth! Sounds like a very fun morning spin there and I'm sure it got the blood pumping before work!

It's pretty good at the moment - but not as good as the 80s, when all manner of stuff went east on Summer Saturdays. Still given the way things are now, I'll settle for the fact that I now have a choice - 68s or 37s
 
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Agreed with the Severn Tunnel, that noise would be rather epic.

AGA have been good with getting something in to help with the shortage due to 170204's meeting with a tractor, I can see members of the 68 fan club heading to Norwich on mass to sample those two 68s on a new route
 

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Hmm, I waited so long to get a 37 to Yarmouth that they've been replaced! ;)

Seriously though, I'm sure the cats are hellfire down there so it's great to welcome a new member of the fan club!


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Thanks - I've come across this character before. He's well known around Norwich for this, so I tend to ignore him as a matter of course. The Severn Tunnel would be a move and a half - especially if there was a signal check in the middle!



It's pretty good at the moment - but not as good as the 80s, when all manner of stuff went east on Summer Saturdays. Still given the way things are now, I'll settle for the fact that I now have a choice - 68s or 37s

By god, Summer Saturday at Yarmouth in the 80's would've been EPIC, heres 2 photos I've found online, that were a norm on a summmer Saturday. Yarmouth got a fair ole bit during the summer in the 80's, mainly all freight locos hauling coaches too


not my pic but Martin S Vos's- 37045 with the 12 coach 1N13 from Yarmouth after terminating at Newcastle on 16 July 1983.

Also, below is a Yarmouth turn I was actually on and my mate went bloody nuts because it wasn't a 37, not that it bothered me, I was happy enough.


Again not my pic, but that of Simon Travers- 14th June 1985 sees 47312 having arrived at it's destination of Newcastle Central, having worked in with the Summer Saturday 09.10 service from Great Yarmouth.

Now, you have still got the 37's, had the 47's and now you have Cats too. Jealous aint the word.
 
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Interesting read - I really must have a trip back over East Anglia way. I will even accept a trip to Yarmouth. ( I lived there once. Once was enough)

PS - have the 37's gone then?
 
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Brilliant stuff.
Forum member 45135 and myself are planning on heading down for them in a couple of months, assuming they last that long.

47403 - Yarmouth was just a bit too out of the way for me in the 80s and my first visit(also with Mr 45135) was in July 1990 when 31450, 37219 and 37709 (twice) were the entertainment.
Happy days, which may well be here again :)
 

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Brilliant stuff.
Forum member 45135 and myself are planning on heading down for them in a couple of months, assuming they last that long.

47403 - Yarmouth was just a bit too out of the way for me in the 80s and my first visit(also with Mr 45135) was in July 1990 when 31450, 37219 and 37709 (twice) were the entertainment.
Happy days, which may well be here again :)

You've got until the end of September to get the 68s in. After then AGA are exploring other options according to their website
 

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You've got until the end of September to get the 68s in. After then AGA are exploring other options according to their website

*Due to the unusually high ticket sales we have decided to keep the 68s and are in talks to steal the Chiltern sets in exchange for some 170s* <D

A shame it's not due to come out to play on Saturdays :(
 

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You've got until the end of September to get the 68s in. After then AGA are exploring other options according to their website

Thanks for the gen.
The end of September is the earliest we can do it, so we might manage to squeeze them in.
 

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Brilliant stuff.
Forum member 45135 and myself are planning on heading down for them in a couple of months, assuming they last that long.

47403 - Yarmouth was just a bit too out of the way for me in the 80s and my first visit(also with Mr 45135) was in July 1990 when 31450, 37219 and 37709 (twice) were the entertainment.
Happy days, which may well be here again :)

Wow Phil, some big machines there in 37219 and 37709. I'd have went into a total tailspin with 37709, nevermind 37219. Be surprised if the Ped got you to Yarmouth on time, still equally nice loco's, even if they would struggle to pull the skin off a rice pudding.

I don't blame you for high tailing it that way neither, 37's and 68's for haulage in the same day, I'm sure most folks Railway Compass is pointing that way too.
 

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31450 was a beast!
If I remember correctly there was a group that intended to preserve it but unfortunately EWS didn't hang around with its disposal - it worked under its own power into the shed at Springs Branch where it was stripped and scrapped with indecent haste :(
 

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Nice to know they are in use over there, me and Blindtraveller are planning on making a pilgrimage over for some Cat thrash! Of course we're also hoping to get some 37s in too, and I had 47s into/out of Yarrrrrmouth years ago.

I don't think a new loco class has ever been this popular from the get-go. It does help in this day and age, of course, that we can all talk to each other with far more ease than in previous decades. Certainly though, I've never come across a brand new class in the UK which has been met with such welcomes across the land. The 387s and 700s haven't been so welcomed, nor were the 374s from what I can recall seeing. Will the 345s, 385s, 707s, 717s, 800s, 801s and 802s get positive reviews? Probably not!

It does, however, make you wonder what alternative options GA will have come September.

68016, 019 and 023 are all required for everything, so any of them will be welcome when we go up. Confirmation of moves will be posted on my TPP Discussion thread soon too.
 

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AGA have, more out of need than want turned themselves into a bit of a haven for the basher with the 90s continuing to work IC turns as well as the 37s and now 68s on the branch work from Knoradge, not to mention the daily Dusty Bin to/from Knoradge also.


Great report thanks
 

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By god, Summer Saturday at Yarmouth in the 80's would've been EPIC......

For a couple of years I did record my haulage. Once I got a job with BR I lost interest, but this comment got me digging through the archives. Here are a couple of days out back then. Sorry, no train reporting numbers but:

Saturday 14 June 1980
08.30 Liverpool St to Norwich 47155 SF
08.58 Peterborough to Great Yarmouth 37264 SF (Norwich to Yarmouth via Reedham)
14.15 Great Yarmouth to Derby 25263 BS and 25269 TO (Yarmouth to Norwich via Acle), 25107 TO and 25095 CW (Norwich to March)
14.30 Great Yarmouth to Walsall 47351 CD (March to Peterborough)
15.15 Manchester Piccadilly to Harwich Parkeston Quay 47255 SF (Peterborough to Ipswich)
19.52 Norwich to Liverpool St 47170 County of Norfolk (Ipswich to Shenfield)

Saturday 5 July 1980
08.30 Liverpool St to Norwich 47156 SF
08.58 Peterborough to Great Yarmouth 31113 MR (Norwich to Berney Arms !!)
14.15 Great Yarmouth to Derby 25258 TO and 25254 TO (Norwich to March)
14.30 Great Yarmouth to Walsall 25267 TO and 25270 TO (March to Peterborough)
15.15 Manchester Piccadilly to Harwich Parkeston Quay 47005 SF (Peterborough to Stowmarket)
19.52 Norwich to Liverpool St 47130 SF (Stowmarket to Manningtree)
21.45 Ipswich to Liverpool St 31314 MR (Manningtree to Shenfield)
 

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For a couple of years I did record my haulage. Once I got a job with BR I lost interest, but this comment got me digging through the archives. Here are a couple of days out back then. Sorry, no train reporting numbers but:

Saturday 14 June 1980
08.30 Liverpool St to Norwich 47155 SF
08.58 Peterborough to Great Yarmouth 37264 SF (Norwich to Yarmouth via Reedham)
14.15 Great Yarmouth to Derby 25263 BS and 25269 TO (Yarmouth to Norwich via Acle), 25107 TO and 25095 CW (Norwich to March)
14.30 Great Yarmouth to Walsall 47351 CD (March to Peterborough)
15.15 Manchester Piccadilly to Harwich Parkeston Quay 47255 SF (Peterborough to Ipswich)
19.52 Norwich to Liverpool St 47170 County of Norfolk (Ipswich to Shenfield)

Saturday 5 July 1980
08.30 Liverpool St to Norwich 47156 SF
08.58 Peterborough to Great Yarmouth 31113 MR (Norwich to Berney Arms !!)
14.15 Great Yarmouth to Derby 25258 TO and 25254 TO (Norwich to March)
14.30 Great Yarmouth to Walsall 25267 TO and 25270 TO (March to Peterborough)
15.15 Manchester Piccadilly to Harwich Parkeston Quay 47005 SF (Peterborough to Stowmarket)
19.52 Norwich to Liverpool St 47130 SF (Stowmarket to Manningtree)
21.45 Ipswich to Liverpool St 31314 MR (Manningtree to Shenfield)

That's quite a move, just before my time. Here's one of mine from 1985 prompted by memories of when Shippea Hill wasn't quite so inaccessible

25/05/1985

47074 BS 0908 Yarmouth - Newcastle (Norwich - Shippea Hill)
47298 BS 0810 Birmingham - Yarmouth (Shippea Hill - Norwich)
37097 MR 0810 Birmingham - Yarmouth (Norwich - Yarmouth)
31409 MR 1327 Yarmouth - Chesterfield (Yarmouth - Norwich)
47254 BR 1410 Yarmouth - Manchester (Norwich - Peterborough)
31425 IM 1715 Peterborough - Ipswich (Peterborough - March)
31164 MR ???? Shippea Hill - Peterborough (March - Peterborough)
31410 MR & 31448 IM 1610 Birmingham - Norwich (Peterborough - Norwich)

Because of the Mildenhall Air Show that weekend, a lot of trains stopped at Shippea Hill so that people could be bussed to Mildenhall, 31164 worked an additional service to get people home afterwards.
 
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That's quite a move, just before my time. Here's one of mine from 1985 prompted by memories of when Shippea Hill wasn't quite so inaccessible

25/05/1985

47074 BS 0908 Yarmouth - Newcastle (Norwich - Shippea Hill)
47298 BS 0810 Birmingham - Yarmouth (Shippea Hill - Norwich)
37097 MR 0810 Birmingham - Yarmouth (Norwich - Yarmouth)
31409 MR 1327 Yarmouth - Chesterfield (Yarmouth - Norwich)
47254 BR 1410 Yarmouth - Manchester (Norwich - Peterborough)
31425 IM 1715 Peterborough - Ipswich (Peterborough - March)
31164 MR ???? Shippea Hill - Peterborough (March - Peterborough)
31410 MR & 31448 IM 1610 Birmingham - Norwich (Peterborough - Norwich)

Because of the Mildenhall Air Show that weekend, a lot of trains stopped at Shippea Hill so that people could be bussed to Mildenhall, 31164 worked an additional service to get people home afterwards.

Some rather large NB 47s in there. The Yarmouth to Newcastle was always normally a 37 bit NB 47s werent uncommon to produce, however in the days before internet gen and mobile phones, unless someone had a TOPS report, the sight of a 47 pulling in on it, was met with a groan from the assembled ranks of bashers, my mate among them, while i smiled silently.
 

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Part 2 - Et tu Brutus

Received the gen that the short set cats had swapped over with "Brutus" deciding that he'd had enough of shuttling Mk IIIs to Wolverton and elbowed "Achilles" off the short set (was not a trip to the capital enough?). Needless to say the chance of another trip to the coast before work was called for and so I boarded the bus near home (First Eastern Counties 66978 for the bus spotters - a Volvo B7) before heading for the station. Everything was all quiet until 68016 arrived with Brutus simmering nicely on the rear. A fairly quick turn-around was called for as we were a few minutes adrift. 68019 duly became the latest capture, and duly obliged with a raucous romp across the fens to Yarmouth, passing the 37s at Brundall. All too soon the run was over and after another quick turn around it was time to enjoy 68016 back to Norwich and the office. At Acle there was a sight that I hadn't seen for a while as the 37s occupied the other platform with the 0836 Norwich - Yarmouth. Headed back to Norwich with another cracking run off these fine locos, and pondered on the moves that could happen in days to come. As the Anglia day ranger is valid on the 0836 to Yarmouth it's possible to do that to either Lingwood or Acle for the cats back to Noriwch and then do a spin on the 1005 to Lowestoft and back. Another cat in the book then with more to follow
 

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Another cat in the book is a good price to pay for getting up slightly earlier. Sounds like a good little morning outing!
 

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So, which 68s are currently stabled in Norwich then - is it just 019 and 016 or did AGA hire a third, backup loco?
 

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You're a lucky man living out that way...

Blindtraveller: GA land certainly is a basher's haven, and I'm thankful that the 90s are my usual commuter haulage! I was not so pleased to find a 321 on the Norwich turn the other week though, vice a 90!


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So, which 68s are currently stabled in Norwich then - is it just 019 and 016 or did AGA hire a third, backup loco?

There's currently 3 68s at Norwich 68016 68019 and 68023, the first two are on the short set and 68023 is the current back-up, although it usually does several stock moves each week
 

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There's currently 3 68s at Norwich 68016 68019 and 68023, the first two are on the short set and 68023 is the current back-up, although it usually does several stock moves each week

23 went north on Friday light engine
 
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