Class 175 on fire at Wilmslow (22/02)

[realemil]

https://twitter.com/mattthornton36/status/1628511616433094658?s=46&t=-lfONZ8Egzs88tr1gU8eGw

Attached is the picture which is provided on the tweet, not much information par the picture.

Appears to be a Class 175 from TfW on fire.

edit:
1W64 1606 Carmarthen - Wilmslow cancelled to Piccadilly due to a fault.
RTT link - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L07484/2023-02-22/detailed

NRE Reporting:

A fire on a train at Wilmslow means all lines are blocked. As a result of this, trains running through this station may be cancelled or delayed by up to 30 minutes.

National Rail Enquiries - Official source for UK train times and timetables

m.nationalrail.co.uk

 

[AlastairFraser]

https://twitter.com/mattthornton36/status/1628511616433094658?s=46&t=-lfONZ8Egzs88tr1gU8eGw

Attached is the picture which is provided on the tweet, not much information par the picture.

Appears to be a Class 175 from TfW on fire.

Oh dear! TfW are already short on stock.

 

[hexagon789]

Perhaps it is just as well the 175s are being replaced on TfW. Something seems to be getting worse with them these days.

 

[Liam L]

https://twitter.com/Mattthornton36/status/1628516051334881281?s=20

Video from Twitter - 175

 

[fgwrich]

Perhaps it is just as well the 175s are being replaced on TfW. Something seems to be getting worse with them these days.

Well, with the 197s moving in (and CAF talking over) the 175s are being pushed out. Reliability of the East Coast HST fleet fell when Hitachi took over responsibility of Bounds Green and Craigentinny, so these things can happen.

Looking at RTT, though the service involved isn’t shown, both 175101 and 175108 where in the Carmarthen area this afternoon, though it looks like 108 worked back to Cardiff leaving 101.

 

[penguin8967]

Second 175 fire in just 2 weeks...

 

[hexagon789]

https://twitter.com/Mattthornton36/status/1628516051334881281?s=20

Video from Twitter - 175

Well, we know it's a 175 now.



Well, with the 197s moving in (and CAF talking over) the 175s are being pushed out. Reliability of the East Coast HST fleet fell when Hitachi took over responsibility of Bounds Green and Craigentinny, so these things can happen.



Looking at RTT, though the service involved isn’t shown, both 175101 and 175108 where in the Carmarthen area this afternoon, though it looks like 108 worked back to Cardiff leaving 101.

Oh I know maintenance and consequently reliability frequently falls drastically when a fleet is due to be replaced, but fires on Coradia family units have been going on for years.

There have been at least eleven fires since 2004.

Edit: apparently it is 101

 

[artemic]

This plus 1G69 having sat down on the fast at Norton Bridge looks like a second sour end to the day for Crewe, particularly after the OHLE failure at Cheadle Hulme yesterday!
Hopefully tomorrow is different...

Edit:
It appears Northern's response to the fire was to cut 2H45 2046 Crewe > Manchester short at Goostrey.
It's a good thing the next train was eventually able to run at ~2230 (albeit with diversion) for anyone who wasn't intending to camp for the night in mid-Cheshire!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Brilliantly English quote on that video - "it's not November the 5th, is it?"

 

[hexagon789]

Brilliantly English quote on that video - "it's not November the 5th, is it?"

I heard that. I'm afraid I both chuckled and also thought he wasn't wrong

 

[Mzzzs]

Surely though the fire issues would have been fixed by now or is it a 175 tradition to catch fire?

 

[Philip]

101 was in Ebbw Vale an hour or so ago, according to RTT. Could be 101 or 110 as they are shown as running together to Ebbw Vale late this evening, but both were in place in Carmarthen this afternoon to work the affected 16:05 to Manchester.

 

[MadMac]

Second 175 fire in just 2 weeks...

Latter-day Class 110s?

 

[gimmea50anyday]

Potential of a hybrid unit being formed ising the two undamaged vehicles? Assuming the right vehicles are available to form a complete unit....

 

[185143]

Potential of a hybrid unit being formed ising the two undamaged vehicles? Assuming the right vehicles are available to form a complete unit....

There is, or at least was, a 3 car in warm storage at Holyhead.

I passed on the bus to the ferry a couple of weeks ago and there was a 3 car and a 2 car stabled in the yard by the road within the ferry terminal. Read on here since 008's fire, the 2 car unit there has been returned to service. I'd expect the 3 car to also be brought back.

(A few days after I did that trip, the ferry I came back to Rosslare that night on had a fire in the engine room. Seems it's not just the trains in Wales catching fire at the moment)

 

[SuperLuke2334]

There is, or at least was, a 3 car in warm storage at Holyhead.

I passed on the bus to the ferry a couple of weeks ago and there was a 3 car and a 2 car stabled in the yard by the road within the ferry terminal. Read on here since 008's fire, the 2 car unit there has been returned to service. I'd expect the 3 car to also be brought back.

(A few days after I did that trip, the ferry I came back to Rosslare that night on had a fire in the engine room. Seems it's not just the trains in Wales catching fire at the moment)

108 has been mentioned above as working from Manchester around the time, that was the other unit. 002 is now the only unit at Holyhead since 011 came back.

 

[william.martin]

There is, or at least was, a 3 car in warm storage at Holyhead.

I passed on the bus to the ferry a couple of weeks ago and there was a 3 car and a 2 car stabled in the yard by the road within the ferry terminal. Read on here since 008's fire, the 2 car unit there has been returned to service. I'd expect the 3 car to also be brought back.

(A few days after I did that trip, the ferry I came back to Rosslare that night on had a fire in the engine room. Seems it's not just the trains in Wales catching fire at the moment)

If it was about 2 weeks ago, it would have been 101 in warm storage.

 

[LRV3004]

Definitely 175101 involved last night. Just on 175106 on my way to work and 175101 is in a siding just south of Wilmslow, coupled to 175107. 175107 is against the buffers though so I’m guessing 175101 must be at least driveable when it comes to moving them eventually.

 

[185]

This plus 1G69 having sat down on the fast at Norton Bridge

3 hours it was there for, brakes stuck on. Left at 0019, went bang road back up to Crewe CS.

Edit: the other 175 now at Wilmslow DR siding attached to the fire casualty appears to have staff with it. Looks like they're preparing to drag it away. Smoke & burn damage on outside is very visible.

 

[TomG]

https://twitter.com/mattthornton36/status/1628511616433094658?s=46&t=-lfONZ8Egzs88tr1gU8eGw

Attached is the picture which is provided on the tweet, not much information par the picture.

Appears to be a Class 175 from TfW on fire.

edit:
1W64 1606 Carmarthen - Wilmslow cancelled to Piccadilly due to a fault.
RTT link - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L07484/2023-02-22/detailed

NRE Reporting:

National Rail Enquiries - Official source for UK train times and timetables

m.nationalrail.co.uk

At Avanti (and FTP) when things are not going well the staff take official (or unofficial) strike action.
At Transport for Wales Rail the trains take strike action. By having cracks in wheels (175's), catching fire (175's) or just not working (158's).

Or it could just be this is the 'Dragon Variant' of the Class 175's.

 

[Mat17]

Latter-day Class 110s?

You can add 112s, 113s and 143s to that list.

 

[Krokodil]

Well, with the 197s moving in (and CAF talking over) the 175s are being pushed out. Reliability of the East Coast HST fleet fell when Hitachi took over responsibility of Bounds Green and Craigentinny, so these things can happen.

Chester was at almost full capacity with the 175 fleet (literally only one half-hour slot going spare per night), it simply can't maintain two fleets at once. Hence the proliferation of 175s dumped in Middle Yard, Longsight and Holyhead awaiting work, or running around with engines isolated.

Canton and Crewe have more capacity available (thanks in part to the acquisition of Barry shed for extra stabling), 231s are now running on the Rhymneys, and the Valleys fleet are doing fewer miles due to frequent electrification blockades so there are therefore 150s and 153s filling in the gaps in the main line fleet.

 

[Snow1964]

BBC reporting some 175s taken out of service for checks

Over 100 services have been cancelled across Wales after trains were withdrawn for safety checks following a number of fires.
The shortage of available trains will mean disruption into early next week, Transport for Wales (TfW) said.
The work was prompted by three "mechanical failures" which caused fires on Class 175 trains.
Class 175s that have not yet had the maintenance work are being temporarily withdrawn from service.
Rail passengers are being urged to check before travelling as a number of services are being affected, TfW said.
The cancellations will also affect services to Shropshire.
It also confirmed that firefighters had previously attended three separate fires linked to mechanical failures on its Class 175 trains.

Transport for Wales: Trains withdrawn for safety checks following fires

More than 100 services cancelled in part or in full due to a shortage of available trains.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SuperLuke2334]

BBC reporting some 175s taken out of service for checks

Transport for Wales: Trains withdrawn for safety checks following fires

More than 100 services cancelled in part or in full due to a shortage of available trains.

www.bbc.co.uk

Further information on 175 grounding in the TfW 175 Shortages thread in traction and rolling stock.