I expect the Tarka/Dartmoor lines will use five 175/1s and then Exeter/Plymouth - Penzance will be a mixture of the remaining 175/1s and paired 175/0s.
That would make sense. Saves having to mess around with TUDI switch on the Barny.
Ooh actually. After the five Tarka/Dartmoor /1s are taken care of, or six if they keep the Axminster daily service, there’s ten /0s and ten /1s left.
Though that would presumably be a bit difficult in the very early stages as the only available people qualified to take a 175 out might be stuck in the failed one mikes away out in the main line.
37501 on the sleepers then? I’m off for a cold shower.
Training fitters (it's not a driver job) on the use of an adaptor coupler is already largely done using an 08 and a 57 at Laira (the 175s have largely been moved around Laira using an 08). The 37 is there for rescue purposes as the remaining 175s at Laira are still being worked on.
A good job then that Northern is tendering for new 3 and 4 car multiple units. Relevant discussion here.Yet we’re still running 2 car trains around Bristol, Manchester, Sheffield, Bradford, Leeds, Nottingham and Newcastle.
I know not directly related but it does seem perverse. Lucky old Devon
Can't speak for the other cities, but Bristol should see a capacity increase when 175s arrive and displace 158s to that area.Yet we’re still running 2 car trains around Bristol, Manchester, Sheffield, Bradford, Leeds, Nottingham and Newcastle.
I know not directly related but it does seem perverse. Lucky old Devon
All assuming the great God DfT allows a nett fleet increase.
The mainline Exeter to Penzance services are mostly dead (non London services) outside of the odd college/school kid train, so 2/3 will be more than adequate and actually easier to manage.
The Castle HSTs are going, but after that it's a net fleet increase.
The XC services to/from Penzance are now part of the 2tph pattern rather than being additional, but as they're now at completely different times it's hard to judge of they're busier as a result of the changes.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
It's not a test run, it's GWR managers being trained by ROG.Realtime Trains | Departures from Newton Abbot around 0921 on 23/06/2025
Train information at Newton Abbot around 0921 on 23/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
175002 is currently operating a Laira to Newton Abbot test run. RailOpsGroup are carrying out the initial testing on the trains. Initial paths shown above. Then several runs throughout the day under 5Dxx headcodes.
Just shows you shouldn't believe everything you read on Twitter.
Either way it’s a positive move that the start of 175s for GWR is progressing.
I was referring more to Exeter - Penzance and whether the Bristol to Plymouth XC services had seen an increase, but I should have been clearer
11.13 Penzance to Edinburgh full + standing in Cornwall and 07.04 Edinburgh/ Penzance full + standing coming into Plymouth on several occasions already..and the latter also falls in with schools turning out.
A lot of cancellations for various reasons on the new XC Cornwall services, which are now part of the half hourly schedule.
Although relatively small overall increase, and of course it depends on your starting reference point, they lost some 387s, and never replaced vehicles lost in Salisbury tunnel junction crash etc.
Has that become a requirement at some point for existing builds? East Midlands Railway didn't need to have it fitted to their older 170s (without it) for their transfer to them in the early 2020s.
Wasn't the loss of the 387s due to their replacement on the Reading-Paddington route by the Crossrail class 345s though ? So although GWR lost fleet, they also lost the services associated with that route, which obviously lost a number of the fleet.
No, that was baked into the original order. The loss of 3 387s was because they were deemed not to need them post Covid. They also obviously lost the temporary ones they got, but those were always temporary for the IET cracking issues.
I See. Thanks Benjwri
But unless their intended workings are being covered (directly or indirectly) by dmus they are entirely unrelated to the fleet size before and after 175s.
