Class 175 to GWR

[irish_rail]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

 

[tfw756rider]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

Thanks

 

[TurboMan]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

There was a plan to begin training in June, but that is now looking less likely.

 

[Envoy]

It seems to me that 1 year in real life = 3 railway years. So, they have not even started driver training and I presume that this means that we will have to soldier on with 5 car IET’s running packed London services. Goodness knows why the 175’s were not sent straight to GWR at Plymouth as soon as TFW were done with them? They must have been left lying around dormant for about 3 years - what a waste.

 

[Snow1964]

There was a plan to begin training in June, but that is now looking less likely.

This thread has been running for over 8 months, and although sign off was protracted, you would have thought that as part of plan to have them, some sort of idea of how to get drivers trained would be formulated, so could get going as soon as possible.

Does rather seem daft got to wait another 3-4 months after sign off to even start training, that is start of training, not the point when there is sufficient to allow use on couple of selected diagrams. It is not like they need to wait for them to be tested and commissioned as new builds.

 

[Falcon1200]

Does rather seem daft got to wait another 3-4 months after sign off to even start training

Perhaps the issue is releasing Drivers for training without adversely affecting the service, particularly during the summer?

 

[TurboMan]

This thread has been running for over 8 months, and although sign off was protracted, you would have thought that as part of plan to have them, some sort of idea of how to get drivers trained would be formulated, so could get going as soon as possible.

Does rather seem daft got to wait another 3-4 months after sign off to even start training, that is start of training, not the point when there is sufficient to allow use on couple of selected diagrams. It is not like they need to wait for them to be tested and commissioned as new builds.

Theres is a training plan for drivers and guards, but it keeps being pushed to the right due to the delays in other aspects of the project, not least unit readiness.

 

[irish_rail]

There was a plan to begin training in June, but that is now looking less likely.

I was under the impression everything was signed off now. The June figure is from Aslef.

 

[TurboMan]

I was under the impression everything was signed off now. The June figure is from Aslef.

Having everything signed off is only part of the jigsaw. It's unit readiness that is the missing piece at present.

 

[Harpo]

Having everything signed off is only part of the jigsaw. It's unit readiness that is the missing piece at present.

And the ability to keep it available for training/traffic, needing artisans trained, maintenance procedures deliverable, supply chain working, contingencies (e.g. failure/recovery) deliverable, etc..

 

[Robin Edwards]

Anyone know the identity of the two most visible at Wolverton from the main entrance aligned behind the Kia dealership? First is 107 but not sure about the other?

 

[XCTurbostar]

Paths in for what looks like a 175 to Wolverton:

Realtime Trains | 5L46 1004 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 21/04/2025

Real-time train running information for 5L46 1004 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 21/04/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0050 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 23/04/2025

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0050 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 23/04/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[sad1e]

Paths in for what looks like a 175 to Wolverton:

Realtime Trains | 5L46 1004 Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 21/04/2025

Real-time train running information for 5L46 1004 departure from Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail) to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 21/04/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0050 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 23/04/2025

Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0050 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 23/04/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Hope it goes via London on its way to Plymouth laira

 

[T74]

Anyone know which 175s moved to wolverton today ?

 

[XCTurbostar]

175006 & 011

 

[tfw756rider]

After this weeks moves I now make that

4 units at LA - 002/007/009/114
4 Units at Wolverton - 001/003/107/108
19 units at Ely 004*/005*/006*/008*/010/011
101*/102/103/104/105/106/109*/110/111/112/113/115*/116

* = units not in orginal fromation.

Correction and updates weclome.

Anyone know which 175s moved to wolverton today ?

175006 & 011

Does anyone in here know which units are where currently?

Also, what work is being done at Wolverton (or elsewhere)? Replacing the drivers' seats with high-backed ones with head rests? Repositioning some of the cab controls/equipment? Replacing the Transport for Wales data on the Train Management Systems / Passenger Information Systems with Great Western Railway (GWR) data? Anything in terms of GWR exterior decals / livery / interior trim?

 

[windjabbers]

I think this is the current locations

4 units at LA - 002/007/009/114
6 Units at Wolverton - 001/003/006*/011/107/108
17 units at Ely 004*/005*/008*/010
101*/102/103/104/105/106/109*/110/111/112/113/115*/116

* = units not in orginal fromation.

Am not clear if 006 was reformed into its orginal formation before leaving Ely or is still made up of 50706 + 79765

Updates welcome

BW DC

 

[DBS92042]

I think this is the current locations

4 units at LA - 002/007/009/114
6 Units at Wolverton - 001/003/006*/011/107/108
17 units at Ely 004*/005*/008*/010
101*/102/103/104/105/106/109*/110/111/112/113/115*/116

* = units not in orginal fromation.

Am not clear if 006 was reformed into its orginal formation before leaving Ely or is still made up of 50706 + 79765

Updates welcome

BW DC

175006 is still 50706 + 79765

 

[windjabbers]

175006 is still 50706 + 79765

Thanks for the update.

 

[83G/84D]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

Is that 2025 or 2026……….?!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

In white and red still I assume?

 

[Express380]

They should start one passenger diagram in August, with driver training beginning in June.

Really hope that is true.

 

[irish_rail]

Really hope that is true.

Well that is/was the plan. However we all know these things can slip and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it does slip. Time will tell. Still no drivers or instructors yet training as we speak.

 

[irish_rail]

In white and red still I assume?

No idea I'm afraid. I heard rumblings that the units will get a new vinyl for GWR life, however I'd also heard the opposite that they wouldn't be re done, so your guess is as good as mine!

 

[tfw756rider]

In white and red still I assume?

No idea I'm afraid. I heard rumblings that the units will get a new vinyl for GWR life, however I'd also heard the opposite that they wouldn't be re done, so your guess is as good as mine!

Does anyone in here know...

...what work is being done at Wolverton (or elsewhere)? Replacing the drivers' seats with high-backed ones with head rests? Repositioning some of the cab controls/equipment? Replacing the Transport for Wales data on the Train Management Systems / Passenger Information Systems with Great Western Railway (GWR) data? Anything in terms of GWR exterior decals / livery / interior trim?

Does anyone in here know anything about what's being done to the 175s at Wolverton?

Also, surely they'll be wrapped into Great Western Railway (GWR) dark green, as it would be a bad look for GWR if they were still in a completely different operator's colours (even worse than them still having First Great Western blue and pink on one or two 150s for until very recently for some reason).

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Does anyone in here know anything about what's being done to the 175s at Wolverton?

Also, surely they'll be wrapped into Great Western Railway (GWR) dark green, as it would be a bad look for GWR if they were still in a completely different operator's colours (even worse than them still having First Great Western blue and pink on one or two 150s for until very recently for some reason).

As I’ve said before, I think simply covering the red on the cab and doors with GWR green vinyl would look fine.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Does anyone in here know anything about what's being done to the 175s at Wolverton?

Also, surely they'll be wrapped into Great Western Railway (GWR) dark green, as it would be a bad look for GWR if they were still in a completely different operator's colours (even worse than them still having First Great Western blue and pink on one or two 150s for until very recently for some reason).

Don’t think it’s that bad a look really. I think your average passenger wouldn’t really care and would just be glad GWR now have a few extra units. Certainly didn’t bother me when TFW took over from ATW and you still had 175s knocking about in the Arriva blue/green.

 

[TurboMan]

Does anyone in here know anything about what's being done to the 175s at Wolverton?

Mostly return from storage servicing. There are some cab mods to be done (new seat, repositioning of handsets etc.) but I don't think it's been finalised as to when/where these will take place.

 

[Xavi]

Hopwood has referred to 'refurbishment' [at Wolverton] and I would be surprised if this does not include GWR colours internally including seat trim.

 

[150249]

As I’ve said before, I think simply covering the red on the cab and doors with GWR green vinyl would look fine.

I agree but it also gives off a very temporary vibe in my opinion.