Class 180 - Cotswold Line

[NickBucks]

Can anyone advise which London Paddington to Great Malvern services on weekdays have Class 180 units. ? Never have been on one before and would like the opportunity before they are let go by GWR. Thanks

 

[Lrd]

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84997

 

[FGW_DID]

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84997

Most of the services, in the link given above, which are highlighted in red are back to 166 operated. Only three 180 diagrams in operation as of Monday just gone.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

For the purposes of daytrip planning, there is likely to be a single 180 diagram on Saturdays from the May timetable change. I believe the following are provisionally diagrammed 180, subject to STP alteration:

0922 Paddington-Worcester FS
1206 Worcester FS-Paddington
1522 Paddington-Gt Malvern
1833 Gt Malvern-Paddington

Hope this is useful.

 

[NickBucks]

Thank you all. Much appreciated.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Most of the services, in the link given above, which are highlighted in red are back to 166 operated. Only three 180 diagrams in operation as of Monday just gone.

One of the trains highlighted in red, 1050 Paddington - Oxford, was 180102 this morning. Perhaps this was covering for a 166 although I notice that the ECS for 0609 Newbury - Paddington is planned to come from Old Oak Common/Paddington this week, instead of Reading Traincare Depot, so perhaps this diagram is planned to be a 180 just for this week?

 

[Dhassell]

Most of the services, in the link given above, which are highlighted in red are back to 166 operated. Only three 180 diagrams in operation as of Monday just gone.

Thats odd, I had one of those red diagrams as a 180 yesterday!

 

[FGW_DID]

One of the trains highlighted in red, 1050 Paddington - Oxford, was 180102 this morning. Perhaps this was covering for a 166 although I notice that the ECS for 0609 Newbury - Paddington is planned to come from Old Oak Common/Paddington this week, instead of Reading Traincare Depot, so perhaps this diagram is planned to be a 180 just for this week?

Thats odd, I had one of those red diagrams as a 180 yesterday!

Typically after posting that, the STP weekly amendments have had that 166 diagram as 'spare' and those jobs covered by the 180's. :roll:

 

[Parallel]

Just out of interest, when was the last time a GWR Class 180 made it somewhere outside of the route between Paddington and Great Malvern (or the morning Newbury)? Was it last year where one made it to Hereford (I believe on a Saturday?)

 

[JN114]

Just out of interest, when was the last time a GWR Class 180 made it somewhere outside of the route between Paddington and Great Malvern (or the morning Newbury)? Was it last year where one made it to Hereford (I believe on a Saturday?)

GWR units do go to Hull (and even Beverley) on an infrequent basis on hire to Hull trains; otherwise their safety case currently only allows Paddington to/from Newbury and Hereford.

 

[Techniquest]

There is a 1621 (I believe) Paddington to Hereford on Saturdays that's formed of a 180. Or at least it always has been when I've seen it, it could well have changed in the last year.

1728 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington rarely turfs out anything but a 180, same for the 0950 Great Malvern to London Paddington!

 

[Parallel]

1728 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington rarely turfs out anything but a 180, same for the 0950 Great Malvern to London Paddington!

Unfortunately the only time I have used the 17.28 it was formed of a 165 due to the 180 having broken down earlier in the day! What was even more annoying was that I was due to catch the 17.02 Westbury train but that that was also cancelled because the 150 had failed earlier in its journey too!

 

[PHILIPE]

There is a 1621 (I believe) Paddington to Hereford on Saturdays that's formed of a 180. Or at least it always has been when I've seen it, it could well have changed in the last year.

1728 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington rarely turfs out anything but a 180, same for the 0950 Great Malvern to London Paddington!

The 180s are not booked out on Saturdays but it doesn't mean to say they don't go out in practice.

 

[Techniquest]

The 180s are not booked out on Saturdays but it doesn't mean to say they don't go out in practice.

Happens too often for my liking so I plan around it!

 

[Melancholia]

The 180s are not booked out on Saturdays but it doesn't mean to say they don't go out in practice.

A couple of weeks ago I saw a 180 go by in service on a Saturday. Not sure what service it was on, but it was definitely in service.

 

[FGW_DID]

The 180s are not booked out on Saturdays but it doesn't mean to say they don't go out in practice.

There's 1x 180 Saturday diagram come the new timetable change in May:

1W21 0922 Paddington - Worcester FS
1P47 1206 Worcester FS - Paddington
1W45 1522 Paddington - Great Malvern
1P79 1835 Great Malvern - Paddington.

 

[jimm]

Happens too often for my liking so I plan around it!

Better a 180 than a Turbo all the way to Hereford if the booked HST for the 16.22 isn't available - though I wouldn't dispute that a 180 doesn't really have the capacity to cope with demand at that time on a Saturday, especially as far as Oxford.

PS: before anyone says that a Turbo has as many seats as a 180, the seats in a 180 are human-sized - for people with their arms attached - and it is not unknown for a failed HST to be replaced all the way to Hereford and back by a two-car 165.

 

[LBOTG]

Officially, wasn't yesterday supposed to be the last day of GWR Class 180s running on the network before transfer to Grand Central?

I ask this because there was one running around this morning on the 08:07 from Oxford this morning, so I was wondering whether they would still be in use this week. However, what's even more strange is that when I returned to Paddington in the afternoon the 1522 to Great Malvern was cancelled and starting from Reading instead, with the same 180101 I saw in the morning abandoned at platform 10.

Was the run this morning actually the last Class 180 (perhaps due to train breakdown) or will they be staying for a little longer? Cheers!

 

[hassaanhc]

Officially, wasn't yesterday supposed to be the last day of GWR Class 180s running on the network before transfer to Grand Central?

I ask this because there was one running around this morning on the 08:07 from Oxford this morning, so I was wondering whether they would still be in use this week. However, what's even more strange is that when I returned to Paddington in the afternoon the 1522 to Great Malvern was cancelled and starting from Reading instead, with the same 180101 I saw in the morning abandoned at platform 10.

Was the run this morning actually the last Class 180 (perhaps due to train breakdown) or will they be staying for a little longer? Cheers!

180103 was out on the
1P47 1206 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington, which should be part of the same diagram. The 1522 service started from Reading with the same unit going ECS until there. Many services were cancelled today due to a shortage of traincrew.

The above appeared to be the only 180 out, as according to Journeycheck:
1W29 1422 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street formed of 8 coaches instead of 5
1W33 1622 London Paddington to Great Malvern formed of 2 coaches instead of 5

14:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44

Facilities on the 14:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 5 between London Paddington and Worcester Foregate Street.
Last Updated:18/12/2017 13:53

16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:25

Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:25.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5.
Last Updated:18/12/2017 14:04

 

[TheAdelante]

I shall certainly miss seeing my favourite unit close to home, it will mean I have to go up to London to ride one!

2 coaches instead of 5.

That's an awful downgrade.
No first class either.

 

[swt_passenger]

In hindsight, this possibly wasn't the best thread to reopen to ask about the last day.

22nd Dec for last day in service was given in this more recent thread:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...y-class-180-leaving-date.157666/#post-3225738

 

[Siemens Staines]

With only two units left (180102 & 180103) one of the three remaining diagrams has been a turbo since the Hull Trains incident with 180110, and 180106 was loaned as cover. It is usually the 0958 from Great Malvern and 1622 from Paddington that gets a turbo of whatever type can be made available.

 

[LBOTG]

180103 was out on the
1P47 1206 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington, which should be part of the same diagram. The 1522 service started from Reading with the same unit going ECS until there. Many services were cancelled today due to a shortage of traincrew.

The above appeared to be the only 180 out, as according to Journeycheck:
1W29 1422 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street formed of 8 coaches instead of 5
1W33 1622 London Paddington to Great Malvern formed of 2 coaches instead of 5

Thanks Hassaan, I'll definitely be checking this site in the future!

 

[LBOTG]

In hindsight, this possibly wasn't the best thread to reopen to ask about the last day.

22nd Dec for last day in service was given in this more recent thread:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...y-class-180-leaving-date.157666/#post-3225738

With only two units left (180102 & 180103) one of the three remaining diagrams has been a turbo since the Hull Trains incident with 180110, and 180106 was loaned as cover. It is usually the 0958 from Great Malvern and 1622 from Paddington that gets a turbo of whatever type can be made available.

@swt_passenger Apologies, I forgot I created that thread completely! I'll make sure to check more thoroughly next time!

@Siemen Staines Thanks for the info, would I be right in saying that the top diagrams are usually operated by a Turbo and that the bottom two are likely to be an Adelante?


1P01 RDG 0559 - PAD 0636
1W14 PAD 0652 - GMV 0932
1P40 GMV 0954 - PAD 1227
1W49 PAD 1622 - GMV 1925
1P83 GMV 1944 - PAD 2242




1W12 PAD 0545 - WOF 0816
1P35 WOF 0826 - PAD 1057
1W41 PAD 1422 - WOF 1644
1P73 WOF 1728 - PAD 2006

1D13 PAD 0620 - OXF 0723
1P24 OXF 0808 - PAD 0909
1W19 PAD 0922 - WOF 1132
1P47 WOF 1206 - PAD 1428
1W45 PAD 1522 - GMV 1757
1P77 GMV 1835 - PAD 2057

 

[Kite159]

180103 was out on the
1P47 1206 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington, which should be part of the same diagram. The 1522 service started from Reading with the same unit going ECS until there. Many services were cancelled today due to a shortage of traincrew.

The above appeared to be the only 180 out, as according to Journeycheck:
1W29 1422 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street formed of 8 coaches instead of 5
1W33 1622 London Paddington to Great Malvern formed of 2 coaches instead of 5

I bet that 1622 service was cosy after Oxford!

 

[Siemens Staines]

@swt_passenger Apologies, I forgot I created that thread completely! I'll make sure to check more thoroughly next time!

@Siemen Staines Thanks for the info, would I be right in saying that the top diagrams are usually operated by a Turbo and that the bottom two are likely to be an Adelante?


1P01 RDG 0559 - PAD 0636
1W14 PAD 0652 - GMV 0932
1P40 GMV 0954 - PAD 1227
1W49 PAD 1622 - GMV 1925
1P83 GMV 1944 - PAD 2242




1W12 PAD 0545 - WOF 0816
1P35 WOF 0826 - PAD 1057
1W41 PAD 1422 - WOF 1644
1P73 WOF 1728 - PAD 2006

1D13 PAD 0620 - OXF 0723
1P24 OXF 0808 - PAD 0909
1W19 PAD 0922 - WOF 1132
1P47 WOF 1206 - PAD 1428
1W45 PAD 1522 - GMV 1757
1P77 GMV 1835 - PAD 2057

Yes that matches with what I have seen in the last 10 days or so, its the top diagram is usually turbo. The problem train is the 1622 which not only is it a busy train, it also calls at all stations including those that can't take a 3-car turbo (180s have SDO, turbos don't) and is the only train in the evening to call at Combe & Finstock. So on the days it does get a 3 car turbo, those stops have to be omitted and other arrangements have to be made for any passengers to those stations.

 

[jimm]

@swt_passenger Apologies, I forgot I created that thread completely! I'll make sure to check more thoroughly next time!

@Siemen Staines Thanks for the info, would I be right in saying that the top diagrams are usually operated by a Turbo and that the bottom two are likely to be an Adelante?


1P01 RDG 0559 - PAD 0636
1W14 PAD 0652 - GMV 0932
1P40 GMV 0954 - PAD 1227
1W49 PAD 1622 - GMV 1925
1P83 GMV 1944 - PAD 2242




1W12 PAD 0545 - WOF 0816
1P35 WOF 0826 - PAD 1057
1W41 PAD 1422 - WOF 1644
1P73 WOF 1728 - PAD 2006

1D13 PAD 0620 - OXF 0723
1P24 OXF 0808 - PAD 0909
1W19 PAD 0922 - WOF 1132
1P47 WOF 1206 - PAD 1428
1W45 PAD 1522 - GMV 1757
1P77 GMV 1835 - PAD 2057

If what happened today is any guide to the rest of the week, it looks like the 05.45 from Paddington etc diagram will be an HST, with a 180 on the 06.20 etc and the 0559 being the luck of the draw. Perhaps a 180 if both remaining sets are runners, but it looks like 102 wasn't fit today, hence the two-car Turbo in use instead - which was probably jam-packed all the way from London as far as Charlbury. Always busy from London and Reading into and out of Oxford when it's a 180.

 

[DaveHarries]

Those of you who are fans of the 180s get your rides in while you can. Class 800s commence up to Worcester via. Oxford after the Christmas and New Year break. I once had a 180 from Honeybourne to Reading and thought it was a good ride. Only time I have ever been on one though.

For my part I plan a daytrip on either the 2nd or 3rd January for some photos of 800s at moreton-in-Marsh with the semaphores.

Dave

 

[Siemens Staines]

Looking at tiger it looks like 1W19 is a 180 today(as per yesterday), no formation shown for 1P35, and 1P40 is starting from Oxford with ??

@PAD
1W19 PADTON WORCSFS 09:22 On time
Formed of 5 coaches.

@MIM
1P35 WORCSSH PADTON 2 09:23 On time 09:23 On time
Last report: At Worcester Shrub Hill (08:54)
1P40 GTMLVRN PADTON 2 10:47 Cancelled 10:48 Cancelled

Further;
09:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.

 

[LBOTG]

Thanks for all this, fingers crossed I get lucky with chasing the 180s this week!