Class 442s - Now at the end of the road and to be withdrawn permanently

[Dan15812]

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564X 0942 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D

1800 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wolverton Centre Sidings

 

[spark001uk]

Today's delivery to Bournemouth is 2403, conveyed by 57312.

 

[444045]

Today's delivery to Bournemouth is 2403, conveyed by 57312.

Thanks for the gen, much obliged to you.

 

[pompeyfan]

Does Bournemouth depot just have a never ending amount of space? The fact there’s about 6 ten car units just there doing nothing must be getting quite tedious because of the space they’re using.

 

[pigs bay]

Only 5 remaining to be retractioned now. What unit is going up this time as 2409/2410/2417 and 2423 are all at Bournemouth depot

 

[theironroad]

Only 5 remaining to be retractioned now. What unit is going up this time as 2409/2410/2417 and 2423 are all at Bournemouth depot

Did it take one back to wolverton this evening?

 

[spark001uk]

Only 5 remaining to be retractioned now. What unit is going up this time as 2409/2410/2417 and 2423 are all at Bournemouth depot

Unit 2417 on way up to Wolverton, currently 24L over Worting.

 

[Right Away]

2419 was still at Weymouth today locked away in the compound on the Jubilee Siding.

 

[Lockwood]

Does Bournemouth depot just have a never ending amount of space? The fact there’s about 6 ten car units just there doing nothing must be getting quite tedious because of the space they’re using.

If there is one thing that Transport Tycoon taught me, it's that depots are small and have infinite capacity!

 

[444045]

Possible 442 move for later today - 0942 Wolverton to Bournemouth Depot and 1800 Bournemouth Depot to Wolverton return ?

 

[Western Sunset]

No sign of Wolverton - BM yet. Cancelled??

 

[DBS92042]

No sign of Wolverton - BM yet. Cancelled??

37800 & 37611 with all the barriers have been sat at Northampton since 0920 so they may have a fault? and hence no Wolverton to BM yet.

 

[spark001uk]

5H70 is moving again. Reason was some 720 units in the way at the works, now moved. Unclear if 5Q86 still running as yet.

 

[Western Sunset]

Looks like they've made it to Wolverton. Wonder if they'll leave the barriers there and call it a day, or carry onto BM as planned, albeit some 2-3 hours late?

 

[spark001uk]

5Q86 has just appeared on the diagram at Wolverton. Only about 3 and a half hrs late.!

 

[Western Sunset]

219 mins late departing. Anyone know if both the locos are at the front, or is it TNT? If it gets a clear run, it could be only 2 1/2 hour late at BM..

 

[spark001uk]

Departed 219 late.
Reported as 37611 with 442404, now 228L through Bletchley.

 

[444045]

Return train will be taking 442423 back to Wolverton.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Here is the latest version of the list.

Anything missing? Feel free to me know.

All information up to date as of 11th March 2021


RED - All or most of unit Scrapped.
GREEN - AC Traction motors and new cab desks fitted.
PURPLE - AC Traction motors and new cab desks being fitted.
ORANGE - Unit partially scrapped
BLUE - Still retains DC Motors


442401 - 4 coaches scrapped July 2020 - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works. Except for coach 77382 which remains at Eastleigh.
442402 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 37800 + 20311/314 (DiT) 16/05/2020 - returned to Bournemouth by 57312 - 10/07/2020 - Still retains GatEx MLC coach.
442403 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken by 57303 - 13/11/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57312 23/02/2021
442404 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken by 57312 - 15/12/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37611 05/03/2021
442405 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works - 05/2020
442406 - Receiving AC traction at Wolverton Works - taken by 37608/611 - 09/02/2021
442407 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
442408 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57310 - 08/10/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37611/608 08/02/2021
442409 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 26/09/2020
442410 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 04/02/2021
442411 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken by 47815 on 29/06/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57310 07/10/2020
442412 - MLC Coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
442413 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57312 - 11/07/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57312 14/12/2020
442414 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 47813 - 05/06/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47813 & 57312 27/11/2020
442415 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57305 + 47815 07/02/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57303 12/11/2020
442416 - Receiving AC traction fitting at Wolverton Works - taken by 37601 - 18/01/2021
442417 - Receiving AC traction at Wolverton Works - taken by 57312 23/02/2021
442418 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 47813 14/05/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47812 18/08/2020
442419 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken by 47815 28/04/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47815 on 26th June 2020 - last seen Weymouth Sidings 11/01/2021
442420 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 04/02/2021
442421 - Unit stripped for spares at Eastleigh Works, then scrapped by Raxstar at Eastleigh Works - 07/2020
442422 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57301 21/05/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37884 20/11/2020
442423 - Receiving AC traction fitting at Wolverton Works - taken by 37611 05/03/2021
442424 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works - 05/2020

 

[StewLane]

Sorry if I have missed this, tried to search without coming across it.
Why have the MLC vehicles been scrapped from some units, what can the rest of the unit be used for? Are there plans for these 4 WES.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Sorry if I have missed this, tried to search without coming across it.
Why have the MLC vehicles been scrapped from some units, what can the rest of the unit be used for? Are there plans for these 4 WES.

I think they have scrapped the MLC vehicles from disused sets as they are apparently of the highest scrap value.

I suspect the spare vehicles could be used for certain spare parts, or if a coach is written off in a collision, then they can just swap one in from another set perhaps?

 

[StewLane]

I think they have scrapped the MLC vehicles from disused sets as they are apparently of the highest scrap value.

I suspect the spare vehicles could be used for certain spare parts, or if a coach is written off in a collision, then they can just swap one in from another set perhaps?

Thanks For the reply.

Does seem that they will be storing a lot of spare vehicles.

 

[444045]

Just to let you know, 442419 is back in Bournemouth Depot, spotted it as I was walking up Nelson Road.

 

[Western Sunset]

Couldn't see 2419 this morning, but it might've been behind another set near where a Cl.455 was stabled alongside the north side of the depot.

Visible in sidings on the north side of depot: 2403, 2404, 2408, 2415, 2422
Visible at the south side of depot: 2413

In siding near carriage washing machine: 2410

Cl.73 73235 was also by the north side of the depot.

One advantage of BM is that it has a lot of lengthy stabling roads to accommodate the Cl.442s

 

[spark001uk]

I wonder whether (in addition to initial testing) they've got to carry out ffr on some/all of the fleet? New traction system and a new braking system, I would have thought so?

 

[pompeyfan]

I wonder whether (in addition to initial testing) they've got to carry out ffr on some/all of the fleet? New traction system and a new braking system, I would have thought so?

I believe that is why there are ongoing SPZ tests on the line between Wareham and Weymouth

 

[spark001uk]

I believe that is why there are ongoing SPZ tests on the line between Wareham and Weymouth

Oh OK, I assumed the SPZ job was just initial proving runs with one unit in order for them to be passed for testing on the live network.

 

[theironroad]

Oh OK, I assumed the SPZ job was just initial proving runs with one unit in order for them to be passed for testing on the live network.

That's pretty much my understanding.

 

[Nym]

Here is the latest version of the list.

Anything missing? Feel free to me know.

All information up to date as of 11th March 2021


RED - All or most of unit Scrapped.
GREEN - AC Traction motors and new cab desks fitted.
PURPLE - AC Traction motors and new cab desks being fitted.
ORANGE - Unit partially scrapped
BLUE - Still retains DC Motors


442401 - 4 coaches scrapped July 2020 - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works. Except for coach 77382 which remains at Eastleigh.
442402 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 37800 + 20311/314 (DiT) 16/05/2020 - returned to Bournemouth by 57312 - 10/07/2020 - Still retains GatEx MLC coach.
442403 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken by 57303 - 13/11/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57312 23/02/2021
442404 - Has AC motors from Wolverton - taken by 57312 - 15/12/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37611 05/03/2021
442405 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works - 05/2020
442406 - Receiving AC traction at Wolverton Works - taken by 37608/611 - 09/02/2021
442407 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
442408 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57310 - 08/10/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37611/608 08/02/2021
442409 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 26/09/2020
442410 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 04/02/2021
442411 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken by 47815 on 29/06/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57310 07/10/2020
442412 - MLC Coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
442413 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57312 - 11/07/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57312 14/12/2020
442414 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 47813 - 05/06/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47813 & 57312 27/11/2020
442415 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57305 + 47815 07/02/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 57303 12/11/2020
442416 - Receiving AC traction fitting at Wolverton Works - taken by 37601 - 18/01/2021
442417 - Receiving AC traction at Wolverton Works - taken by 57312 23/02/2021
442418 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 47813 14/05/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47812 18/08/2020
442419 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken by 47815 28/04/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 47815 on 26th June 2020 - last seen Weymouth Sidings 11/01/2021
442420 - Still DC fitted, last known location - Bournemouth T.M.D. 04/02/2021
442421 - Unit stripped for spares at Eastleigh Works, then scrapped by Raxstar at Eastleigh Works - 07/2020
442422 - Has AC traction motors fitted by Wolverton - taken to Wolverton by 57301 21/05/2020 & returned to Bournemouth by 37884 20/11/2020
442423 - Receiving AC traction fitting at Wolverton Works - taken by 37611 05/03/2021
442424 - MLC coach scrapped - Raxstar, Eastleigh Works - 05/2020

None of the units to my knowledge have had their new cab desks completed.

 

[221101 Voyager]

None of the units to my knowledge have had their new cab desks completed.

Oh ok I just put that they had been done, becuase by the time they re-enter service, if ever, then they will be done anyways.