They’ve Just cancelled all the evening sheppy 701 services due to the “fault” too
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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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norbitonflyer
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2H90 ran, but started at Strawberry Hill and was 2 x 458/5 (which is now a rarer formation than a 701)
The Surbiton working 2J92 was a 701 though.
Ridiculous to suggest it’s the fault of the drivers & guards. The unions long ago signed off the working arrangements for the fleet. The TOC has then attempted to introduce faulty stock and failed to implement DCO correctly.
Looks like these are being replaced from 2C29, which is shown to be a pair of 450s
w11_supremecy
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Unit 037 does.
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SWR have failed to predict how many will retire and leave for other tocs. This calculation was made well before SWR Drivers were even involved in the pay dispute.
Today's testing (701025):
5T90 - Clapham Yard Sidings - Waterloo - Went to Dorking, then Epsom Sidings, before heading back to Waterloo.
5T91 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard Sidings - Went to Chessington South and then headed back to the Yard.
5T90 - Clapham Yard Sidings - Waterloo - Went to Dorking, then Epsom Sidings, before heading back to Waterloo.
5T91 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard Sidings - Went to Chessington South and then headed back to the Yard.
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I’m on the Surbiton working this morning, seems to be running to time. My first experience of a 701 and it feels very swish compared to the clapped out 455s. Hope they are rolled out as quickly as possible
norbitonflyer
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Only the first working 0523 Shepp to Waterloo was cancelled. Reported as staff issue on RTT.
The diagram this morning started with the 0645 Waterloo to Shepperton worked by 701039 - the unit working last night's diagram. The last working 2357 Waterloo to Shepperton was cancelled last night as well for the same reason, so I'm guessing there was no crew to take it back to Shepperton after arrival at Waterloo, and it spent the night at the wrong end of the line.
2357 cancelled again today I believe
701 testing via cobham today as 5T92 and 93
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Realtime Trains | 5Q26 0857 Derby Litchurch Lane to Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs | 12/11/2024
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Whereabouts of 701007 ? This unit has been "off the radar" for a long time. One cab car was reportedly seen heading south on the M1 on a trailer on 06.03.24 but the destination was unknown. Another site has recently reported that TOPS shows the unit as being at Ilford, but is it ? If correct, is the whole unit there or just one car - moving one of these units by road is a BIG job - 10 lorry loads !! Has anyone actually seen 701007 recently?
Invincible
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Does SWRs operating contract allow having drivers, guards and stock on standby in case of unforeseen problems or training, or is it a thing of the past to save money?.
Ideally overtime is a last resort rather than normal?.
GeoffS
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In a list in Today's Railways UK's October issue it was shown as at Worksop, where I suspect it has been for quite a long time.
Today's testing (701025):
5T91 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T92 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes to Effingham Junction via Cobham and heads back to Waterloo via Cobham.
5T93 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Same as above.
5T94 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard - normal.
5T94 did not run, 5T93 finished early at Clapham.
5T91 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T92 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes to Effingham Junction via Cobham and heads back to Waterloo via Cobham.
5T93 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Same as above.
5T94 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard - normal.
5T94 did not run, 5T93 finished early at Clapham.
OneTrackMinded
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Normal commuters seem to be getting their hands on the 701s, posting about it on twitter, are the responses aren't all too positive.
Main complaints are the seats being too hard, interior being "too drafty", too bright, too many announcements, and too loud. Also mentioned are the "odd tiny tables". Someone described it as a "very odd train". Another remarked "Did they design them with only children in mind?"
Main complaints are the seats being too hard, interior being "too drafty", too bright, too many announcements, and too loud. Also mentioned are the "odd tiny tables". Someone described it as a "very odd train". Another remarked "Did they design them with only children in mind?"
Goldfish62
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Have there ever been any new trains which normal passengers have taken to media to praise? The HSTs, 442s, 450s and 707s were all slagged off when first introduced.
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Quite surprised about the first two you mentioned. Although I don't want to go off topic
Goldfish62
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I'm old enough to remember.
At the same time quite a lot of people on Twitter are pleased with the 701s turning up. Comments noted include bigger windows, better passenger info, quieter traction, and being roomy. Not everything is doom and gloom.
Mordac
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I like the 730/0s, big improvement over the 323s! Everyone I've spoken to about it seems to share the same opinion!
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If the 701s had replaced 455s in the middle of a heatwave, then there would probably have been a better reaction.
As a replacement to 707s, then the seating I assume would be a slight improvement, but the 707s (mainly) departed quite a while ago.
As a replacement to 707s, then the seating I assume would be a slight improvement, but the 707s (mainly) departed quite a while ago.
I think there's also the factor that a lot of passengers will probably not even notice it's a different train. Even then, of those who do notice and like them (or dislike them), how many would actually go to social media to post about it? The voices we hear are probably a small percentage of a small percentage. It will be more interesting to see comprehensive results, such as passenger surveys, once they are in service
norbitonflyer
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Is 2J92 running today? RTT is being ambiguous
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Cancelled due to the main side disruption this morning.
RTT in a bit of a muddle, 1036 on 2U16.
Today's testing:
5T88 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T89 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes via Richmond round the Kingston loop.
5T91 - Waterloo - Guildford - Goes via Cobham.
5T92 - Guildford - Clapham Yard - Goes via Cobham.
Testing today was cancelled because of the points failure messing everything up.
5T88 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T89 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes via Richmond round the Kingston loop.
5T91 - Waterloo - Guildford - Goes via Cobham.
5T92 - Guildford - Clapham Yard - Goes via Cobham.
Testing today was cancelled because of the points failure messing everything up.
NSEWonderer
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Just watched the 16:33 Windsor service which was 701036 at Waterloo. Passengers were verbally happy from what I heard, seeing it was "the new train". There is some decent size disruption today and such a train carries a ton of people quite well.
Many "Oh the new one", "Its the new one" and a few "This train finally" but I'd assume maybe that last one could have been down to waiting for the actual train rather than the 701 itself
Many "Oh the new one", "Its the new one" and a few "This train finally" but I'd assume maybe that last one could have been down to waiting for the actual train rather than the 701 itself