Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates

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Realtime Trains | 5Q95 0650 Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 22/03/2023

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5Q95 dep 0700 47749 701046

Realtime Trains | 5Q95 0650 Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 23/03/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q96 1130½ Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 23/03/2023

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Dep 1120 47749 701043

 

[Jacob Porrett]

It's stated on another thread that training is about to start on the Class 730s, with service entry expected in May.

So about two months then.

Something like that yeah. Hopefully no more delays and stoppages all being well.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Realtime Trains | 5Q95 0650 Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 22/03/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q95 0650 Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 23/03/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q96 1130½ Eastleigh Trsmd to Marchwood Mod Gbrf | 23/03/2023

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How many units are there now?

 

[3973EXL]

23/03

5Q95 EH - Marchwood Caped
5Q96 EH - Marchwood dep 1120 47749 701043

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24/03

5Q70 dep RT 47749 701004

Realtime Trains | 5Q70 0650 Eastleigh Trsmd to Long Marston Gbrf | 24/03/2023

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[fgwrich]

So with the above, we’ve now got units stored at;
Worksop
Wembley
Long Marston
Marchwood
Eastleigh Arlington
Eastleigh TRSMD
Clapham Yard

Do we know where the rest of the units are across the SWR Network - eg Bournemouth, Shepparton etc?

 

[TEW]

Still a few stored in Farnham Depot.

 

[Snow1964]

So with the above, we’ve now got units stored at;
Worksop
Wembley
Long Marston
Marchwood
Eastleigh Arlington
Eastleigh TRSMD
Clapham Yard

Do we know where the rest of the units are across the SWR Network - eg Bournemouth, Shepparton etc?

I suppose if they were all in one place, that would need 9.4 miles of secure siding

Even if you found somewhere with 775m sidings (normal longest length used for UK trains), would need 22 sidings (3 full length + 5car =700m, cant get 4 trains in).

I doubt there is anywhere in Southern England with that much spare siding space even if it wasn't secure and suitable.

 

[Invincible]

Realtime Trains | 5Q51 1115 London Waterloo to Staines Up Loop | 23/03/2023

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Was this Waterloo Poole and Staines trip yesterday a 701 under test?

 

[timstours]

5Q70 Eastleigh to long marston ran today via west london ,swindon,kemble and worcester with 47749 + 701 004

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Realtime Trains | 5Q51 1115 London Waterloo to Staines Up Loop | 23/03/2023

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Was this Waterloo Poole and Staines trip yesterday a 701 under test?

Yes.

 

[amazon1675]

I saw 701040 passing Southampton today. Last I knew that one was at Worksop...when did it come south?

 

[Peter Sarf]

So with the above, we’ve now got units stored at;
Worksop
Wembley
Long Marston
Marchwood
Eastleigh Arlington
Eastleigh TRSMD
Clapham Yard

Do we know where the rest of the units are across the SWR Network - eg Bournemouth, Shepparton etc?

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I suppose if they were all in one place, that would need 9.4 miles of secure siding

Even if you found somewhere with 775m sidings (normal longest length used for UK trains), would need 22 sidings (3 full length + 5car =700m, cant get 4 trains in).

I doubt there is anywhere in Southern England with that much spare siding space even if it wasn't secure and suitable.

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5Q70 Eastleigh to long marston ran today via west london ,swindon,kemble and worcester with 47749 + 701 004

It would appear that the 701s are leaving South Western Railway faster than any more are being delivered. One every day. Is that true ?.

 

[Warrior2852]

So with the above, we’ve now got units stored at;
Worksop
Wembley
Long Marston
Marchwood
Eastleigh Arlington
Eastleigh TRSMD
Clapham Yard

Do we know where the rest of the units are across the SWR Network - eg Bournemouth, Shepparton etc?

Why are they at Worksop?

 

[800001]

Why are they at Worksop?

Worksop is where a lot of units from derby go for storage.

 

[fgwrich]

Worksop is where a lot of units from derby go for storage.

Also where a lot of units seem to be heading before completion. I’m not sure how the production line seems to be working at Litchurch lane, but it seems to involve sending out part completed units for storage before returning back to Derby for completion.

 

[Snow1964]

Can anyone advise which trains are built

I think (please advise if wrong)
10car 701 001-052 built and seen, stored various locations
10car 701 053-060 possibly still at Derby or Worksop
5car 701 509 & 512 doing tests
5car 710 501-508, 510-511, 513-530 not delivered

Not clear to me if missing units are finished and stored, or part built

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Why are they at Worksop?

Worksop has lots of storage (think it was used for many years for coal hopper wagons needing attention), and is not that far from Derby

 

[Goldfish62]

Can anyone advise which trains are built

I think (please advise if wrong)
10car 701 001-052 built and seen, stored various locations
10car 701 053-060 possibly still at Derby or Worksop
5car 701 509 & 512 doing tests
5car 710 501-508, 510-511, 513-530 not delivered

Not clear to me if missing units are finished and stored, or part built

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Worksop has lots of storage (think it was used for many years for coal hopper wagons needing attention), and is not that far from Derby

I did read somewhere recently that every unit is now in some state of build so too late for those who suggested cancelling part of the order!

 

[philip simpkin]

I believe 053-060 if built are still all at Derby. 501-508 & 510-511, split between Derby & Worksop.

 

[Warrior2852]

How do they get from Derby to Worksop generally, do they go via Sheffield or up the Robin Hood line using the triangle junction near Nottingham?

 

[800001]

I believe 053-060 if built are still all at Derby. 501-508 & 510-511, split between Derby & Worksop.

Correct from my records.

701509 and 701512 are at Eastleigh for testing.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

May someone please remind me how many toilets per 5 and 10 car set these have? And how many are disabled ones compared to regular ones?

 

[jackot]

May someone please remind me how many toilets per 5 and 10 car set these have? And how many are disabled ones compared to regular ones?

1 toilet on the 5 cars and 2 toilets on the 10 cars. As far as disabled toilets go, your guess is as good as mine; I reckon they will all be accessible considering the 5 car is only fitted with a single toilet and hence it must be a disabled one.

 

[Goldfish62]

1 toilet on the 5 cars and 2 toilets on the 10 cars. As far as disabled toilets go, your guess is as good as mine; I reckon they will all be accessible considering the 5 car is only fitted with a single toilet and hence it must be a disabled one.

That is correct.

 

[WarrenTManager]

Correct from my records.

701509 and 701512 are at Eastleigh for testing.

Both have been at Wimbledon since the 22nd.

 

[JonathanH]

What happened to the plan for the 5-car units to have inter unit gangways? I'm sure the early drawings had them but note that this was questioned in 2019 and it was said then that they weren't planned.

 

[Goldfish62]

What happened to the plan for the 5-car units to have inter unit gangways? I'm sure the early drawings had them but note that this was questioned in 2019 and it was said then that they weren't planned.

Never saw any drawings with them. Are you perhaps confusing them with the 730s.

 

[Recessio]

Still surprised that they went through all that fuss and problems to redesign the cab just for the 701s, and yet didn't go for a gangway design.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Still surprised that they went through all that fuss and problems to redesign the cab just for the 701s, and yet didn't go for a gangway design.

End gangways would be a pointless expense on two thirds of the units, as the 10-car sets are too long to work in multiple with anything else.

And designing an end gangway just for the 5-car fleet would add more cost.

 

[DMckduck]

End gangways would be a pointless expense on two thirds of the units, as the 10-car sets are too long to work in multiple with anything else.

And designing an end gangway just for the 5-car fleet would add more cost.

Nothing like a 15 car set running on a 10 car railway!

 

[Warrior2852]

Nothing like a 15 car set running on a 10 car railway!

Just give them some pantographs and send them on HS1, that likes 15 car trains!