Class 707 to Southeastern Dates

[Class 466]

707028 (?) is parked outside Wimbledon TCD unbranded. I gather this will be one of the next to move east?

I expect that’ll be with 707027 if the whole numerical pairs thing carries on.

 

[Peter Sarf]

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This was an actual SE page?

GWR did the same thing a few years ago...

The thing is most of the audience for this publicity will not know or care what a multiple unit is so will not view it as two trains/vehicles coupling or making contact......

 

[Chiltern006]

for anyone who wants to know, these are the 707 diagrams (copied from Facebook)

5D05 0515 Slade Green T&R.S.M.D to Crayford
2D05 0531 Crayford to London Cannon Street
2S11 0620 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F13 0711 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V09 0757 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K19 0845 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I23 0938 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S31 1120 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F33 1211 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V29 1257 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K39 1345 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I43 1438 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S51 1620 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F53 1711 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V49 1757 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K59 1845 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I67 1938 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S75 2120 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F77 2211 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V69 2257 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K79 2345 Hayes (Kent) to Lewisham
5K80 0014 Lewisham to Grove Park Down C.H.S.

 

[CoastlinerEast]

 

[4-SUB 4732]

for anyone who wants to know, these are the 707 diagrams (copied from Facebook)

5D05 0515 Slade Green T&R.S.M.D to Crayford
2D05 0531 Crayford to London Cannon Street
2S11 0620 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F13 0711 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V09 0757 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K19 0845 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I23 0938 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S31 1120 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F33 1211 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V29 1257 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K39 1345 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I43 1438 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S51 1620 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F53 1711 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V49 1757 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K59 1845 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street
2I67 1938 London Cannon Street to London Cannon Street
2S75 2120 London Cannon Street to Orpington
2F77 2211 Orpington to London Cannon Street
2V69 2257 London Cannon Street to Hayes (Kent)
2K79 2345 Hayes (Kent) to Lewisham
5K80 0014 Lewisham to Grove Park Down C.H.S.

There must be another diagram; they’ve got two pairs out according to social media.

 

[Frontera2]

If you’re on WhatsApp - you can send #CityBeam to 07866 002690 ( SE’s official WhatsApp account ) and they’ll instantly send you the diagrams by return.

 

[03_179]

707003

Location	Mileage	Arr	Dep	WTT ID	Position / others
Grove Park CSD			10:30	5Z31	1 with 707004
Grove Park Dpt C		10:35	10:35	5Z31	1 with 707004
London Cannon St	8	10:55	11:03	5Z33	2 with 707004
Grove Park	16	11:20	11:21	5Z33	2 with 707004
Orpington	21	11:30	11:37	5Z34	1 with 707004
Grove Park	26	11:49	11:49	5Z34	1 with 707004
New Cross	30	12:03	12:10	5Z35	2 with 707004
Grove Park	34	12:20	12:21	5Z35	2 with 707004
Orpington	39	12:31	12:38	5Z36	1 with 707004
Grove Park	43	12:49	12:50	5Z36	1 with 707004
New Cross	48	13:04	13:11	5Z37	2 with 707004
Grove Park	52	13:20	13:20	5Z37	2 with 707004
Orpington	57	13:26	13:27	5Z37	2 with 707004
Sevenoaks	65	13:38	13:52	5Z38	1 with 707004
Orpington	73	14:00	14:01	5Z38	1 with 707004
Grove Park	78	14:18	14:19	5Z38	1 with 707004
New Cross	82	14:33	14:53	5Z39	2 with 707004
Grove Park Dpt C	86	15:05	15:05	5Z39	2 with 707004
Grove Park CSD	87	15:10

 

[Class 466]

There must be another diagram; they’ve got two pairs out according to social media.

There’s only one pair in service today. The fact this diagram is inbalanced suggests there may well be two pairs from tomorrow.

edit: The other diagram should’ve been this but is an 8 car 465 today. (465242 & 250 which are due to go into store on Thursday)

5N85 06+27 Grove Park Down CHS to Slade Green
2B85 0709 Slade Green to Cannon Street
2T41 0816 Cannon Street to Cannon Street
Berths at Cannon Street until:
2T69 1517 Cannon Street to Cannon Street
2T77 1715 Cannon Street to Cannon Street
2T85 1915 Cannon Street to Cannon Street
5E85 21+00 Cannon Street to Slade Green Depot

 

[brad465]

So primarily Hayes, Orpington and Cannon Street, with the odd Crayford/Slade Green running for now.

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Geoff Marshall's gone for a ride on one in service:

https://twitter.com/geofftech/status/1442401625981820929

Well this is new and shiny … it’s a 707 on South Eastern! hello, CityBeam …

 

[ComUtoR]

There’s only one pair in service today.

100% two pairs out today.

009+010
011+012

 

[03_179]

707011

Location	Mileage	Arr	Dep	WTT ID	Position / others
Gillingham Depot			11:15	5Z52	1 with 707012
Gillingham Kent		11:25	11:26	5Z52	1 with 707012
Grove Park	27	12:05	12:06	5Z52	1 with 707012
London Cannon St	35	12:30	15:17	2T69	1 with 707012
Blackheath	41	15:36	15:37	2T69	1 with 707012
Eltham	43	15:42	15:43	2T69	1 with 707012
Slade Green	50	16:05	16:09	2T69	1 with 707012
Woolwich Arsenal	55	16:23	16:24	2T69	1 with 707012
Greenwich	59	16:36	16:37	2T69	1 with 707012
London Cannon St	64	16:51	17:15	2T77	2 with 707012
Blackheath	70	17:36	17:37	2T77	2 with 707012
Eltham	72	17:42	17:43	2T77	2 with 707012
Slade Green	78	18:05	18:09	2T77	2 with 707012
Woolwich Arsenal	84	18:23	18:24	2T77	2 with 707012
Greenwich	88	18:36	18:37	2T77	2 with 707012
London Cannon St	92	18:51	19:15	2T85	1 with 707012
Blackheath	98	19:36	19:37	2T85	1 with 707012
Eltham	100	19:42	19:43	2T85	1 with 707012
Slade Green	107	20:05	20:09	2T85	1 with 707012
Woolwich Arsenal	113	20:23	20:24	2T85	1 with 707012
Greenwich	117	20:36	20:37	2T85	1 with 707012
London Cannon St	121	20:51	21:00	5E+85	2 with 707012
Greenwich	125	21:09	21:09	5E+85	2 with 707012
Woolwich Arsenal	129	21:17	21:17	5E+85	2 with 707012
Slade Green	135	21:32	21:32	5E+85	2 with 707012
Slade Green DD	136	21:35

 

[Class 466]

100% two pairs out today.

009+010
011+012

There is now, yes

 

[EonLeader]

Spotted a 707 out my window at West Wickham just now working the 2K39 1345 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street, which units would they be?

 

[capitalconnect]

The new announcements on the Southeastern 707s are 100% identical to the Thameslink 700s announcements. It is the exact same format and wording and the same voices (Julie Berry and Matthew Streeton) who do the announcements. Good to see that they got rid of the disjointed unreliable Text To Speech system (Acapela Rachael) that SWR and SWT used.

 

[03_179]

Spotted a 707 out my window at West Wickham just now working the 2K39 1345 Hayes (Kent) to London Cannon Street, which units would they be?

707009 + 010

 

[brad465]

The new announcements on the Southeastern 707s are 100% identical to the Thameslink 700s announcements. It is the exact same format and wording and the same voices (Julie Berry and Matthew Streeton) who do the announcements. Good to see that they got rid of the disjointed unreliable Text To Speech system (Acapela Rachael) that SWR and SWT used.

Hopefully because there are less calling points on their routes compared to 700s, the 707s will get to the useful display screens like passenger loading heat maps quicker, something that's a problem using 700s on their Rainham route and I imagine through the core as well with short stopping distances (correct me if any of this is wrong).

 

[Class 466]

Hopefully because there are less calling points on their routes compared to 700s, the 707s will get to the useful display screens like passenger loading heat maps quicker, something that's a problem using 700s on their Rainham route and I imagine through the core as well with short stopping distances (correct me if any of this is wrong).

I know they have some of the pages turned off through the core to prioritise calling pattern information.

The next two 707s will come over on Friday 1st October: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Q11897/2021-10-01/detailed

Expect it’ll be 707027 with 707028 that’s been spotted debranded at Wimbledon Depot.

 

[Chiltern006]

credit to dan sullivan on Facebook

so they do have southeastern seats... this was 012

 

[Class 466]

credit to dan sullivan on Facebook

so they do have southeastern seats... this was 012

707009 & 010 have 700/717 seat covers, the rest going forward will have SE ones.

 

[Chiltern006]

hopefully they will change that soon

 

[Geoff_K]

Is there a way to find out what services the 707s are running on tomorrow or Wednesday? Don't have WhatsApp,

 

[superalbs]

Is there a way to find out what services the 707s are running on tomorrow or Wednesday? Don't have WhatsApp,

Our new Class 707 City Beam trains are now in service and will* form the following services:
Sidcup Line:
05:31 Crayford to Cannon Street
09:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
14:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
19:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
Grove Park Line:
06:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
07:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
11:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
12:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
16:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
17:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
21:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
22:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
Hayes Line:
07:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
08:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
12:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
13:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
17:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
18:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
22:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
Bexleyheath Line:
08:16 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
16:51 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
18:51 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
Woolwich Line:
07:09 Slade Green to Cannon Street
08:16 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
09:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
14:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
19:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
*These services are planned to be operated by Class 707 City Beam trains but may change at short notice for operational reasons.
For more details on our new trains click here https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/tickets/more-ways-to-travel/introducing-the-city-beam
To find out more information about the Southeastern WhatsApp service, reply with #Menu

 

[southern442]

707009 & 010 have 700/717 seat covers, the rest going forward will have SE ones.

Was that presumably just that they needed new/blue ones and there were some GTR covers going spare? To my eye the subtle change in pattern does make quite a difference.

 

[Chiltern006]

yeah thats what I'm thinking, the southeastern ones could've been late, and they just needed something bloo temporarily. the seats really do make all the difference

 

[03_179]

I've put on the 707s in service today on the blog. Link in signature.

 

[swt_passenger]

Was that presumably just that they needed new/blue ones and there were some GTR covers going spare? To my eye the subtle change in pattern does make quite a difference.

After today’s news about the franchise I wouldn’t expect they’d be too worried about seat cover patterns…

 

[Geoff_K]

Our new Class 707 City Beam trains are now in service and will* form the following services:
Sidcup Line:
05:31 Crayford to Cannon Street
09:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich.........

Thanks

 

[Mikey C]

credit to dan sullivan on Facebook

so they do have southeastern seats... this was 012

So they've still got that pointless 2+1 section, with an aisle wide enough to drive a London Bus down it (metaphorically), but no extra grab handles when compared to the usual 2+2

 

[ScotGG]

Great work putting in pointless seat covers in SE blue now there's no franchise.

Thankfully the 465s are all in sparking condition and didn't need that money.

 

[Pep and co]

Will there be any diagrams on Saturday this week?