Class 745 Stadler FLIRTs

[chubs]

Maybe if the lockdown goes on for a while and there is a decline in rail travel after they can all be sent to the scrappers too?

 

[samuelmorris]

Maybe if the lockdown goes on for a while and there is a decline in rail travel after they can all be sent to the scrappers too?

Unlikely, they don't all have replacements lined up. What's the rush?

 

[supervc-10]

And Grand Central are planning to operate 90+Mk4s from Euston to Blackpool. This route is likely to be pretty handy for me, I work in Preston and the 17:43 departure they have planned will be ideal for heading to London after work!

 

[Abbo]

Not so fast! There are still a fair few locos hauling coaches around in various parts of the country (or would be were if it not for lock-down), including London Marylebone - Birmingham Snow Hill, Liverpool - Scarborough, and possibly others - eg the Fife circulars. And likely to be for quite a while.

Woops , sorry I was refering to the ex GER and FLIRT area and should have made that clear.

I hear 90005 was about today but I don't know when and on what.

 

[86246]

Woops , sorry I was refering to the ex GER and FLIRT area and should have made that clear.

I hear 90005 was about today but I don't know when and on what.

90005 was just on a ECS working from Harwich PQ:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/08997/2020-03-31/detailed

 

[agnott]

StanEx 105 seen out on test today.

 

[Shunter_69]

It’s supposed to have already been accepted.

 

[dk1]

StanEx 105 seen out on test today.

It's been accepted into traffic along with 106.

 

[Bringback309s]

StanEx 105 seen out on test today.

Where abouts? Possibly driver training?

 

[dk1]

Where abouts? Possibly driver training?

Almost all driver training is suspended. 745/1s operate alongside their sister 745s on the Norwich-Liverpool St route.

 

[Shunter_69]

It’s in service today so it may well have been yesterday too but looked like it was testing due to the low passenger numbers?

 

[agnott]

It's been accepted into traffic along with 106.

It’s supposed to have already been accepted.

My mistake! I saw it heading North near Gt Blakenham and mistakenly tied it up to 5Q66 on realtime trains, which I now notice didn't run, sorry all!

 

[robert west]

A Stansted unit out on test today on 5q24
looked like 745108 or 109 can anyone confirm please
many thanks

 

[Shunter_69]

109 was out and about today

 

[robert west]

109 was out and about today

thanks for confirming

 

[robert west]

745107 on 1830 liv st to Norwich tonight with 745001 on test Norwich bound through witham at 1932 hours

 

[Abbo]

I have been told hat 007 continues to run in reverse formation ( first class wrong end ). Does anyone know , if true, why this is. Are they testing running this way to see how the pantographs fare in this directon for example.

 

[jopsuk]

Are they testing running this way to see how the pantographs fare in this directon for example.

I wouldn't thought so, they run in both directions not round a loop

 

[Abbo]

Sorry I wasn't making my question clear. Is the pantograph problematic at certain nueteral l sections. I believe the one at Bow is / could be viz a viz the signalling.

 

[dk1]

Bow isn't too bad but Forest Gate on the UM is paricually tight if getting stopped beneath the Goblin bridge. Unfortunately as drivers we cannot simply swap pantographs over without tech help.

 

[delticdave]

Bow isn't too bad but Forest Gate on the UM is particularly tight if getting stopped beneath the Goblin bridge. Unfortunately as drivers we cannot simply swap pantographs over without tech help.

Wow, so you can't select forward or rear pan from your driving cab? What's best or most common, front or rear pan raised? FWIW, I would have thought that there's enough distance between them to use both, but that might cause problems at neutral sections.

TIA, DC

 

[dk1]

Wow, so you can't select forward or rear pan from your driving cab? What's best or most common, front or rear pan raised? FWIW, I would have thought that there's enough distance between them to use both, but that might cause problems at neutral sections.

TIA, DC

It's always the back one. To swap them over means going into the maintenance menu which can only be accessed with a technicians PIN or if talked through it over the phone. Not sure if anybody has had the embarrassment of doing the latter yet

 

[Nym]

That seems quite dumb compared with the status quo of units in the UK some 15 years ago, where Class 390s can select them with a rotary switch in the cab and simply press "PAN UP" again.

I'm not too certain on the Class 80xs but I've been on them in normal, close and intermediate spacing, with them I believe selected via the TCMS.

 

[dk1]

That seems quite dumb compared with the status quo of units in the UK some 15 years ago, where Class 390s can select them with a rotary switch in the cab and simply press "PAN UP" again.

Totally agree but who are we to argue? I'm sure as the incidents & delay minutes rise there will be a change of heart in making this simple straightforward task a drivers decision as it should be. The rear pan could then be resellected once out of the affected area on occasions where there was no technical issue with the rear pan in the first place.

 

[MisterT]

In the Dutch NS FLIRT we can simply block a pantograph from rising, and the train will automatically raise the other one instead.
Seems weird to me that the drivers can't do anything to select the pantograph.

 

[dk1]

In the Dutch NS FLIRT we can simply block a pantograph from rising, and the train will automatically raise the other one instead.
Seems weird to me that the drivers can't do anything to select the pantograph.

You & me both. Operation of the pans has been wholly our responsibility until now so what's changed & why is it such a big deal? Nobody seems to understand why.

 

[yorkie]

Just a gentle reminder this thread is to discuss Class 745 Stadler FLIRTs

We have plenty of capacity for threads discussing any other topic

(Post regarding Dutch EMUs moved to https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-used-on-any-of-the-modern-dutch-emus.203431/ )

 

[alholmes]

Saturday 11th saw three of the five passenger sets formed of 745/1 Stansted units. Sets in service were: 002, 005, 105, 106, 107. Also sets 001 and 109 were out on test.

Today (Tuesday 14th), Sets in service were: 002, 007, 009, 010, 107. Out on test were 001, 106 and 109. 745001 operated Norwich - Liverpool Street - Stansted - Ely, then returning by the same route. Have these been to Ely before?

 

[VicH]

Saturday 11th saw three of the five passenger sets formed of 745/1 Stansted units. Sets in service were: 002, 005, 105, 106, 107. Also sets 001 and 109 were out on test.

Today (Tuesday 14th), Sets in service were: 002, 007, 009, 010, 107. Out on test were 001, 106 and 109. 745001 operated Norwich - Liverpool Street - Stansted - Ely, then returning by the same route. Have these been to Ely before?

Do you know what diagram 109 was on today?

 

[Peter Sarf]

Saturday 11th saw three of the five passenger sets formed of 745/1 Stansted units. Sets in service were: 002, 005, 105, 106, 107. Also sets 001 and 109 were out on test.

Today (Tuesday 14th), Sets in service were: 002, 007, 009, 010, 107. Out on test were 001, 106 and 109. 745001 operated Norwich - Liverpool Street - Stansted - Ely, then returning by the same route. Have these been to Ely before?

I am puzzled. 106 was in service on Saturday 11/04/2020 but three days later it was on test. Had it been naughty on Saturday or had someone forgotten to test it ?.