Coding on tickets

[trainophile]

Just wondering whether, amongst all the numeric codes on a paper ticket, is there any way to identify which TOC’s website it was bought on?

Just doing a cancelled train claim, and GWR want to know whether I bought it from them or elsewhere. I know I could trawl through my accounts on all the sites I use, but wondered whether there’s a quick way.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Just wondering whether, amongst all the numeric codes on a paper ticket, is there any way to identify which TOC’s website it was bought on?

Just doing a cancelled train claim, and GWR want to know whether I bought it from them or elsewhere. I know I could trawl through my accounts on all the sites I use, but wondered whether there’s a quick way.

Yes. All tickets bought and collected via the ToD (ticket on departure) system should have the reference code for the booking, as well as the four digit code that identifies the retailer, printed on the bottom of the ticket. It should look like this.

If you're unsure what the four digit code means then feel free to ask here (although searching your emails for the 8-character ToD code should also clear the matter up).

If, on the other hand, you bought your ticket from a ticket machine or station ticket office then the ticket number will be the giveaway, but that's more complex...

 

[trainophile]

Ooh thank you. Is there a list anywhere of what the various 4-digit codes mean?

Mine says 7175.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Ooh thank you. Is there a list anywhere of what the various 4-digit codes mean?

Mine says 7175.

7175 means GWR. There probably is a list out there, but it is likely an industry internal list. Luckily, I have bought tickets from GWR before so that is how I know that they use that code . I don't know all of the retailers but I know quite a few of them.

 

[trainophile]

Thanks again. I have been googling like mad but couldn’t find a list. Perhaps we could compile one on this site?

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Thanks again. I have been googling like mad but couldn’t find a list. Perhaps we could compile one on this site?

I'm certainly more than happy to start it, but I'm not sure where the most appropriate place for such a list is.

 

[trainophile]

Perhaps see what the site management think - it might be inappropriate if it’s not widely available to the general public, or they may think there’s only a limited call for it.

Just done my claim online, wondered why they didn’t ask for an upload of my ticket, and find they still need me to print off the claim form and post it to them (albeit Freepost) with the ticket. Bit of a PITA as I’m travelling. Perhaps they think people will forget or not bother.

 

[trainophile]

Hope it's okay to bump this thread, but can anyone tell me what TOC uses code 3043 on their ticket references?

 

[methethpropbut]

Hope it's okay to bump this thread, but can anyone tell me what TOC uses code 3043 on their ticket references?

I've gotten that code every time I bought from TrainSplit

 

[trainophile]

Ah, I did wonder if it might be, but my tickets which are for next week aren't showing in my TrainSplit purchases. Think I will enquire about that on the TrainSplit thread.

Edit: Perhaps I bought them as a guest and didn't log into my account. That would explain it.

 

[exesoundtech]

Ah, I did wonder if it might be, but my tickets which are for next week aren't showing in my TrainSplit purchases. Think I will enquire about that on the TrainSplit thread.

Edit: Perhaps I bought them as a guest and didn't log into my account. That would explain it.

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[RJ]

It's all in the public domain in the fares data at http://data.atoc.org/data-download

 

[trainophile]

It's all in the public domain in the fares data at http://data.atoc.org/data-download

Takes me to the Rail Delivery Group and wants me to log in. Do you have to be in the business to join that website?

 

[JB_B]

Takes me to the Rail Delivery Group and wants me to log in. Do you have to be in the business to join that website?

Anyone can register. Click on the create new user tab or just use this link...

http://data.atoc.org/user/register

 

[trainophile]

Anyone can register. Click on the create new user tab or just use this link...

http://data.atoc.org/user/register

Right, done that. Lots of stuff on there, I don't know where to look!

 

[JB_B]

It's all in the public domain in the fares data at http://data.atoc.org/data-download

At the moment I can't see "FTPL INTERNET BOOKING ENGINE" in the latest free fares data ( RJFAF213 ) which table is it in?

 

[RJ]

Right, done that. Lots of stuff on there, I don't know where to look!

There's an instruction file there which explains what the files are and what they contain. You'll need to devise a method to display the data in a format that you can work with.

At the moment I can't see "FTPL INTERNET BOOKING ENGINE" in the latest free fares data ( RJFAF213 ) which table is it in?

If you can't find it then it may have been suppressed. However the NLCs that are made public at the time the data is released can be found in the location table.

 

[JB_B]

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If you can't find it then it may have been suppressed. However the NLCs that are made public at the time the data is released can be found in the location table.

No sign of NLC 3043 in RJFAF213.LOC - does that mean it's been suppressed?