Cost of a ticket in 1970

[Chewie64]

Hi, I am trying to find out how much a single ticket, and return ticket, would have cost from Farnborough to Waterloo in 1970. And also a timetable for a Friday. Thanks so much to anyone who is able to assist me or point me in the right direction. Many thanks, Andy

 

[Gloster]

I only have the public timetable from May 1971: it was XX.17 and XX.47 during the day with rush-hour extras. Down trains were XX.12 and XX.42 with extras. More precise information can be provided.

 

[westv]

I imagine it was probably a few shillings.

 

[Chewie64]

I only have the public timetable from May 1971: it was XX.17 and XX.47 during the day with rush-hour extras. Down trains were XX.12 and XX.42 with extras. More precise information can be provided.

Hi, that is really useful, thank you. What time was the last train back to Farnborough from Waterloo? Sorry to be a pain

 

[Gloster]

Hi, that is really useful, thank you. What time was the last train back to Farnborough from Waterloo? Sorry to be a pain

23.12 arriving Farnborough 23.55.

 

[Chewie64]

23.12 arriving Farnborough 23.55.

Thanks Gloster

 

[Gloster]

The September 1967 ABC Rail Guide shows Single tickets as 9/3 Second and 14/- First. However, there would have probably been at least three rises between then and 1970, and the Southern Region tended to offer Cheap Day Return tickets.

 

[Chewie64]

The September 1967 ABC Rail Guide shows Single tickets as 9/3 Second and 14/- First. However, there would have probably been at least three rises between then and 1970, and the Southern Region tended to offer Cheap Day Return tickets.

Thanks for this. The cheap day return makes sense as being available too, and relevant information. Really appreciate you taking the time to provide me information

 

[Gloster]

Thanks for this. The cheap day return makes sense as being available too, and relevant information. Really appreciate you taking the time to provide me information

I was too young at the time to have much recollection of the details, but as far as I can remember the Cheap Day Return were valid for departure after 09.30 and you could come back on any train: we lived nearer Waterloo, but I am sure that on occasions we returned during the rush-hour. I have a vague (very vague) recollection that the Cheap Day Return was something like one and a half times the Single, so by 1970 from Farnborough it would probably have been around £1, possibly a bit under. I don’t think that inflation had really got bad by then, but still you would hear, ”I don’t know about prices today. It really is appalling.”

 

[eastwestdivide]

For another data point, my 1974 ABC rail guide has Farnborough/Waterloo return as £1.76 and single £0.88 2nd class, and £2.70/£1.35 1st class. No cheap day return fares listed, but their existence is noted in the intro section of the guide.
Trains to London every half hour at xx17 and xx47 (with a few extras for the peak flow), journey time 42 mins.

 

[30907]

23.12 arriving Farnborough 23.55.

All those timings applied from 1967 until well into the 70s - with a couple of peak extras being added as traffic grew.

 

[Chewie64]

For another data point, my 1974 ABC rail guide has Farnborough/Waterloo return as £1.76 and single £0.88 2nd class, and £2.70/£1.35 1st class. No cheap day return fares listed, but their existence is noted in the intro section of the guide.
Trains to London every half hour at xx17 and xx47 (with a few extras for the peak flow), journey time 42 mins.

Hi. Sorry to keep asking questions. Does your guide show the types of tickets you could buy? Was there an equivalent to an all day travelcard or a rover? If you got on at Farnborough and were going to London would a ticket to Waterloo be the only option or could you have chosen other destinations so you could continue your journey? Many thanks, Andy

 

[Gloster]

Hi. Sorry to keep asking questions. Does your guide show the types of tickets you could buy? Was there an equivalent to an all day travelcard or a rover? If you got on at Farnborough and were going to London would a ticket to Waterloo be the only option or could you have chosen other destinations so you could continue your journey? Many thanks, Andy

I am pretty certain that you would have to buy your ticket to Waterloo and then rebook for the Underground, although there might have been combined seasons. Whether there were day tickets on LT then I don’t know, but it would surprise me. I think you could get through tickets to Bank as the Drain was still BR.

 

[Chewie64]

I am pretty certain that you would have to buy your ticket to Waterloo and then rebook for the Underground, although there might have been combined seasons. Whether there were day tickets on LT then I don’t know, but it would surprise me. I think you could get through tickets to Bank as the Drain was still BR.

Okay thanks very much. That is really useful.

 

[30907]

I am pretty certain that you would have to buy your ticket to Waterloo and then rebook for the Underground, although there might have been combined seasons. Whether there were day tickets on LT then I don’t know, but it would surprise me. I think you could get through tickets to Bank as the Drain was still BR.

Combined seasons to individual tube destinations were widespread, but the only other through tickets would I think have been on routes where BR and LT overlapped (Amersham etc). The only day ticket was the Twin Rover covering Central Area buses and most of the Tube, costing 10s in the mid 60s.

 

[Bevan Price]

There were weekly rover tickets available for individual BR regions, plus all-line rovers throughout the 1960s. The boundary for the Southern region rover was cut back to Salisbury when the section west of Saliisbury was transferred to the Western Region in the mid-1960s.

 

[PeterC]

I am pretty certain that you would have to buy your ticket to Waterloo and then rebook for the Underground, although there might have been combined seasons. Whether there were day tickets on LT then I don’t know, but it would surprise me. I think you could get through tickets to Bank as the Drain was still BR.

Through fares, on a point to point basis, we're available from a lot of stations in the South East. I have no idea if Farnborough was one. Every applicable BR station would have a poster showing the through fares to every Underground station but no information on their own fares.

Zonal fares and Travelcards didn't come into use until the 1980s.

 

[Rescars]

I am struggling to remember, but I think there were tickets available for cross-London journeys which included LU travel between termini (though no break of journey on LU permitted)?

 

[30907]

I am struggling to remember, but I think there were tickets available for cross-London journeys which included LU travel between termini (though no break of journey on LU permitted)?

They certainly didn't routinely exist by 1978.

 

[Rescars]

They certainly didn't routinely exist by 1978.

Maybe wishful thinking. It's a while ago!

 

[30907]

Maybe wishful thinking. It's a while ago!

Possibly available for Warrants?