Spirit555
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I have not seen any confirmation that it was 170621. It did run over 2 hours late though and 170638 made the return journey roughly 2 hours late too.
Mark
Mark
Thanks for the update.I have not seen any confirmation that it was 170621. It did run over 2 hours late though and 170638 made the return journey roughly 2 hours late too.
Mark
Is 638 pencilled in to lose a carriage?I have not seen any confirmation that it was 170621. It did run over 2 hours late though and 170638 made the return journey roughly 2 hours late too.
Mark
No, it's a Cross-Country unit already.Is 638 pencilled in to lose a carriage?
I knew that - just testing youNo, it's a Cross-Country unit already.
170621 in service today. Currently on Tyseley. Sue to work Birmingham NS to Nottingham later today.
Mark
It was in service working the 1350 Leicester - Birmingham NS yesterday so that may be it's first day in service? Centre vehicle very nice inside although whole train looked really nice. The poster displays inside the centre vehicle have not yet been filled with anything and the lights in that vehicle were switching between on and off but it's great to have extra capacity for when things get better.170621 in service today. Currently on Tyseley. Sue to work Birmingham NS to Nottingham later today.
Mark
Great stuff, thanks Mark.170622 returned from Barton Hill Saturday 03/04 with centre car 56634.
Mark
That's right. It's just 170518 and 170519 left to go down to Barton Hill receive their centre cars and be re-numbered 170618 and 170619. I'd assume one of these should go south any day now.Great stuff, thanks Mark.
I have that down as the 4th unit to be completed (620-623) with centre cars from 530 and 531 still to be added to their new units?
That's right. It's just 170518 and 170519 left to go down to Barton Hill receive their centre cars and be re-numbered 170618 and 170619. I'd assume one of these should go south any day now.
Thanks very much both!They usually go down on a Saturday on using paths 5Z70 or 5Z71 on the standard maintenance contract Barton Hill has, depending on whether going or coming from Barton Hill. Usually down there a week, but if centre car added it's 2 weeks.
HTH
Mark
I remember from the earlier thread on the same subject it‘s because the existing XC end vehicles have first class already, and the others don’t.With all of the switching around of making some of the XC 170s into 3 coach sets from some 3 coach West Midlands/LM 170s, being as both the LM and XC belong to the exact same depot at Tyseley, would it have been far more simpler and straightforward to exchange the sets?
I imagine the cost of repainting and refurbishing whole trains rather than a few coaches might dissuade a few people.With all of the switching around of making some of the XC 170s into 3 coach sets from some 3 coach West Midlands/LM 170s, being as both the LM and XC belong to the exact same depot at Tyseley, would it have been far more simpler and straightforward to exchange the sets?
This is not the first time this has happened in recent times, as for the bringing back into service 221144, some 5 coach XC 221s were reduced to 4 coaches, where it would have been easier for Virgin Trains [sic] to have put 221142-143 back to how they were originally and done a swap with XC as both operators fleets are based at the exact same depot (Central Rivers).
Sometimes, I totally despair of how the country has ended up in the terrible state it is in nowadays.
The Turbostar switching around has been covered before, but basically ....... XC needed more capacity while WMR 170s were moving to EMR as 2 cars. Therefore, 6 centre cars from WMR units were sent to Barton Hill to be reliveried for XC and exam'd. 6 2 car XC 170s were sent to Bristol for an exam, then augmentation.With all of the switching around of making some of the XC 170s into 3 coach sets from some 3 coach West Midlands/LM 170s, being as both the LM and XC belong to the exact same depot at Tyseley, would it have been far more simpler and straightforward to exchange the sets?
This is not the first time this has happened in recent times, as for the bringing back into service 221144, some 5 coach XC 221s were reduced to 4 coaches, where it would have been easier for Virgin Trains [sic] to have put 221142-143 back to how they were originally and done a swap with XC as both operators fleets are based at the exact same depot (Central Rivers).
Sometimes, I totally despair of how the country has ended up in the terrible state it is in nowadays.
519 according to RTT is out (as a 2 car) coupled to 112 on the Birmingham- Cambridge route. Cannot see 518 out though.Any news on 170518/519 being extended?
Thanks for the info.519 according to RTT is out (as a 2 car) coupled to 112 on the Birmingham- Cambridge route. Cannot see 518 out though.
Thanks. So XCs 170/5 fleet is pretty much obsolete.170518 has now returned as 170618 formed with addition of 56630. Seen at Birmingham New Street, sat as the standby XC 170 unit. I also believe that 170519 has gone for addition of 56631.
Mark
170618 Today on the 13-22 Birmingham - Cambridge170518 has now returned as 170618 formed with addition of 56630. Seen at Birmingham New Street, sat as the standby XC 170 unit. I also believe that 170519 has gone for addition of 56631.
Mark
Thanks for the update.170618 Today on the 13-22 Birmingham - Cambridge
Seen it at Hinckley. Passed 170102 which I was arriving on 1350 Leicester to Birmingham NS. Was very well loaded too!Thanks for the update.
All the better that more of them are 3-cars then.Seen it at Hinckley. Passed 170102 which I was arriving on 1350 Leicester to Birmingham NS. Was very well loaded too!
It sure is! Only 7 2-car units left so presume in May when as far as I know it goes back to a Pre Covid timetable on the 170 routes they'll diagram the 2-car units carefully to avoid been used on busy services or pair them.All the better that more of them are 3-cars then.
It’s good that they’ve got the extra cars in preparation. I’m sure that will be a big relief to travellers as more people return.It sure is! Only 7 2-car units left so presume in May when as far as I know it goes back to a Pre Covid timetable on the 170 routes they'll diagram the 2-car units carefully to avoid been used on busy services or pair them.