Darlington - Non Stopping Trains

[Finfanero]

Could anyone explained why the majority of Non Stop passenger trains run through the platforms at Darlinton ?

When I used to go there in the 90s lot run straight through on the mains ??

 

[zero]

I haven't looked at timetables recently, but I believe at least in the Down (towards Newcastle) direction, it's easier if they all go through Platform 4, otherwise they would have to "cross" the route of Up stopping trains to stay on the Down Main.



Tangentially related, on Saturday nights there is a passenger train scheduled to use platform 4BX https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C47470/2024-11-09/detailed which is a loop that enters platform 4 half way along it. I don't fully understand why this happens, but I have failed in several attempts to get there at that time in order to observe.

 

[Condor7]

Tangentially related, on Saturday nights there is a passenger train scheduled to use platform 4BX

Tangentially. Now that’s a long word to wake up early to, I had to look it up!
Excellent choice of word though.

 

[800001]

Could anyone explained why the majority of Non Stop passenger trains run through the platforms at Darlinton ?

When I used to go there in the 90s lot run straight through on the mains ??

Only services on the down do this, saves changing points, saves conflicts across the junctions at the south and north or platform 1.

 

[Twingo37175]

I haven't looked at timetables recently, but I believe at least in the Down (towards Newcastle) direction, it's easier if they all go through Platform 4, otherwise they would have to "cross" the route of Up stopping trains to stay on the Down Main.



Tangentially related, on Saturday nights there is a passenger train scheduled to use platform 4BX https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C47470/2024-11-09/detailed which is a loop that enters platform 4 half way along it. I don't fully understand why this happens, but I have failed in several attempts to get there at that time in order to observe.

Platform 4 in entirety is long enough to hold more than 1 train (hence 4a and 4b). I have arrived in 4a on a Northern from Saltburn (to Bishop Auckland) which then had an LNER come around it into 4B to depart first. IN the instance you reference, there is then a northern service to follow from 4a which must terminate earlier and await it's path north. If you look, there is also a freight train pathed to do the same on the Saturday you reference.

 

[800001]

Platform 4 in entirety is long enough to hold more than 1 train (hence 4a and 4b). I have arrived in 4a on a Northern from Saltburn (to Bishop Auckland) which then had an LNER come around it into 4B to depart first. IN the instance you reference, there is then a northern service to follow from 4a which must terminate earlier and await it's path north. If you look, there is also a freight train pathed to do the same on the Saturday you reference.

Although on the station it is just platform 4 and 4A.

 

[edwin_m]

Completion of the east side platform for Up stopping tracks should allow Down non-stoppers to pass on the through line, speeding them up a bit.

For rather similar reasons, southbound freights may pass through the trainshed at York.

 

[greyman42]

Completion of the east side platform for Up stopping tracks should allow Down non-stoppers to pass on the through line, speeding them up a bit.

For rather similar reasons, southbound freights may pass through the trainshed at York.

Some northbound freights use the trainshed at York.

 

[zwk500]

Some northbound freights use the trainshed at York.

If they've arrived on the Normanton Lines (eastern pair) from the South sending a Northbound freight through the station can be less disruptive than needing to wait for a gap on the Leeds (western) pair of lines. Same principle - the most efficient timetable plan is the one with the fewest conflicts possible.

 

[DarloRich]

Are we just taking about the platform 4b "bishop bypass" movement?

Northern train to bishop Auckland pulls into 4b. LNER train overtakes and runs into p 4 allowing it to leave first?

Hardly an uncommon occurrence!

 

[zwk500]

Are we just taking about the platform 4b "bishop bypass" movement?

Northern train to bishop Auckland pulls into 4b. LNER train overtakes and runs into p 4 allowing it to leave first?

Hardly an uncommon occurrence!

I think the OP is referring to Down trains running via P4 at all rather than the Down Main.

 

[800001]

I think the OP is referring to Down trains running via P4 at all rather than the Down Main.

They implied a northern service using platform 4A