DB Cargo pay/conditions

tiptoptaff · 4 Jul 2023

Hi all,

I have done a search but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.

I have applied to DB as a qualified driver, can anyone tell me what the up to date pay, conditions, pension, rostering etc is like for drivers at DB. Also what sort of training do TOC drivers go through with DB? how much handling etc, do they provide training on things like engineering work that we would never have done as a TOC driver?

And does anyone have any more specific information on the South Wales hub, routes/traction etc.

Thanks

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anglian96 · 4 Jul 2023

Have messaged you mate

Train_manager · 4 Jul 2023

tiptoptaff said:
Hi all,

I have done a search but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.

I have applied to DB as a qualified driver, can anyone tell me what the up to date pay, conditions, pension, rostering etc is like for drivers at DB. Also what sort of training do TOC drivers go through with DB? how much handling etc, do they provide training on things like engineering work that we would never have done as a TOC driver?

And does anyone have any more specific information on the South Wales hub, routes/traction etc.

Thanks

No RPS and no free travel.

tiptoptaff · 4 Jul 2023

Train_manager said:
No RPS and no free travel.

That I knew about FOCs. Not overly fussed on the travel

Chad said:
Have messaged you mate

Cheers mate

Train_manager · 4 Jul 2023

tiptoptaff said:
That I knew about FOCs. Not overly fussed on the travel

Cheers mate

Excellent. Good luck with your choice.. I hope your not fussed about Aircon

And FYI freightlner are still in the RPS.

tiptoptaff · 4 Jul 2023

Train_manager said:
Excellent. Good luck with your choice.. I hope your not fussed about Aircon

And FYI freightlner are still in the RPS.

I also applied to FL, got a response saying the advert had been pulled as HW had implemented a hiring freeze

66701GBRF · 5 Jul 2023

tiptoptaff said:
I also applied to FL, got a response saying the advert had been pulled as HW had implemented a hiring freeze

If the rumours are true FL intermodal are in a bit of trouble at the moment so probably best you didn’t get an interview just yet.

Train_manager · 5 Jul 2023

66701GBRF said:
If the rumours are true FL intermodal are in a bit of trouble at the moment so probably best you didn’t get an interview just yet.

Good old rail rumours. They just got a 7% ish payrise.

I would be more worried about DB and there massive pension debt.

bengley · 7 Jul 2023

Train_manager said:
Good old rail rumours. They just got a 7% ish payrise.

I would be more worried about DB and there massive pension debt.

It's not a rumour. Intermodal are in the process of reducing work and are expecting to have a substantial surplus of drivers. They are working with ASLEF and FLHH to try and find a way forwards for the surplus drivers.

Starmill · 7 Jul 2023

Train_manager said:
I would be more worried about DB and there massive pension debt.

I thought that their section was closed to any new starters? So wouldn't be an issue for someone starting now. Do check what employer's pension contributions they're offering, of course.

anglian96 · 7 Jul 2023

Starmill said:
I thought that their section was closed to any new starters? So wouldn't be an issue for someone starting now. Do check what employer's pension contributions they're offering, of course.

This is correct. Any new starter is on a complete different scheme and not the RPS final salary

43066 · 7 Jul 2023

Chad said:
This is correct. Any new starter is on a complete different scheme and not the RPS final salary

I’d heard that was on the cards. Was it quite a recent change?

anglian96 · 7 Jul 2023

43066 said:
I’d heard that was on the cards. Was it quite a recent change?

No mate it's been about something like 2 years or so

380101 · 8 Jul 2023

Train_manager said:
Good old rail rumours. They just got a 7% ish payrise.

I would be more worried about DB and there massive pension debt.

FL Intermodal have cut daily trains from 30 odd to 25 and have around 40 surplus drivers at the moment.

nithen · 8 Jul 2023

380101 said:
FL Intermodal have cut daily trains from 30 odd to 25 and have around 40 surplus drivers at the moment.

Wasn't IM and HH supposed to merge.

MR Grunter · 8 Jul 2023

nithen said:
Wasn't IM and HH supposed to merge.

That is the "master plan" to be come frightliner UK and have both divisions merged to work all trains. There is much objection to this on the side of I.M. however due to our T's & C's. In my opinion this appears to be a very good opportunity for freightliner to play their hand and make this move without in effect buying drivers out of their current contracts. Give them the choice, either walk or merge. Any objection to this could be met with the defence of business reduction and trying to save drivers from redundancy. Just my view on it. Not saying that is the actual case but i wouldn't be surprised if they played the cards that way.

FrankOwen · 9 Jul 2023

I'm pretty sure drivers who are already in the RPS upon joining FL can stay in the scheme.
Otherwise it's a 3 year wait.

357 · 9 Jul 2023

FrankOwen said:
I'm pretty sure drivers who are already in the RPS upon joining FL can stay in the scheme.
Otherwise it's a 3 year wait.

I had an interview with them last year and was told in the interview that as I'm already in the scheme I would continue in the scheme, but someone not in the scheme, say, with GBRf, would not be able to join RPS

Duffman76 · 9 Jul 2023

FrankOwen said:
I'm pretty sure drivers who are already in the RPS upon joining FL can stay in the scheme.
Otherwise it's a 3 year wait.

Yes, this is 100% correct.

Jack67 · 10 Jul 2023

tiptoptaff said:
Hi all,

I have done a search but can't seem to find what I'm looking for.

I have applied to DB as a qualified driver, can anyone tell me what the up to date pay, conditions, pension, rostering etc is like for drivers at DB. Also what sort of training do TOC drivers go through with DB? how much handling etc, do they provide training on things like engineering work that we would never have done as a TOC driver?

And does anyone have any more specific information on the South Wales hub, routes/traction etc.

Thanks

Hi all. Does anyone have information on shift patterns at Tilbury for DB. Nights/Days. Leave. Etc. any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

anglian96 · 10 Jul 2023

Jack67 said:
Hi all. Does anyone have information on shift patterns at Tilbury for DB. Nights/Days. Leave. Etc. any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

No such thing as DB at Tilbury. Closest depot to Tilbury that DB run from is barking

Jack67 · 11 Jul 2023

Strange. Given they are advertising a driver role at Tilbury.

Grumpy Git · 11 Jul 2023

380101 said:
FL Intermodal have cut daily trains from 30 odd to 25 and have around 40 surplus drivers at the moment.

Can someone tell TPE.

anglian96 · 11 Jul 2023

Jack67 said:
Strange. Given they are advertising a driver role at Tilbury.

Nah no such thing mate. I live in Tilbury but am based at barking haha definitely no depot there

guard1 · 12 Jul 2023

Anyone have information on merseyside/Greater Manchester regions for db? E.g. regular trips and relieving points?

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