Fermiboson
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Starting this thread early because I already know things will be very complicated.
I hold a Heart of England rover, Derby <> Sheffield and Sheffield <> Wakefield day returns. On the morning due to the XC strikes and works at Derby, I took the relatively roundabout route:
1M22 XC Oxford (0739) > Leamington Spa (0813)
2G71 WM Leamington Spa (0840) > Nuneaton (0918)
1K07 XC Nuneaton (0924) > Leicester (0950)
1F20 EM Leicester (1006) > Derby (1028)
1Z39 XC Derby (1046) > Wakefield (1145)
If there were no strikes etc. according to the timetable I could have taken:
XC Oxford (0739) > B’ham New St (0851)
XC B’ham NS (0903) > Wakefield (1049)
This is hence a theoretical delay of 56 minutes.
The strikes meant there were no trains back, so I received endorsements from two XC train guards and the Wakefield ticket office for travel via London. I elected to travel for the 1858 LNER southbound, which was then delayed by a half hour due to OHLE issues. My travel itinerary as a result became:
1A48 LNER Wakefield (1936, +37) to London KX (2132, +26)
(45 min MCT)
1D45 GWR London Pad (2248) to Oxford (2359)
If XC was running as timetabled, I would have chosen to depart earlier:
XC Wakefield (1823) to B’ham NS (2004)
XC B’ham NS (2103) to Oxford (2216)
Technically a delay of 103 minutes but when taking into account the earlier departure, a 68 minute increase in journey time.
If we ignore the XC timetable and consider an undelayed LNER service the itinerary is:
1A48 LNER Wakefield (1858) > KGX (2106)
(45 mins MCT)
1U36 GWR PAD (2202) > Didcot Pkwy (2239)
2L72 GWR Didcot Pkwy (2245) > Oxford (2308)
Hence a delay of 51 minutes.
Given this, should I be claiming:
- From XC for an outbound delay of 56 minutes; and/or
- From XC for an inbound delay of 68 minutes; and/or
- From LNER for an inbound delay of 51 minutes
And should I be claiming the tickets based on the ticket price of:
- Oxford <> Derby, Derby <> Sheffield, Sheffield <> Wakefield off peak returns; or
- Oxford > Derby, Derby > Sheffield, Sheffield > Wakefield, Wakefield > London and London > Oxford off peak singles; or
- Oxford > Derby, Derby > London, London > Oxford off peak singles, Derby <> Sheffield <> Wakefield off peak returns
or any other such combination?
Starting this thread early because I already know things will be very complicated.
I hold a Heart of England rover, Derby <> Sheffield and Sheffield <> Wakefield day returns. On the morning due to the XC strikes and works at Derby, I took the relatively roundabout route:
1M22 XC Oxford (0739) > Leamington Spa (0813)
2G71 WM Leamington Spa (0840) > Nuneaton (0918)
1K07 XC Nuneaton (0924) > Leicester (0950)
1F20 EM Leicester (1006) > Derby (1028)
1Z39 XC Derby (1046) > Wakefield (1145)
If there were no strikes etc. according to the timetable I could have taken:
XC Oxford (0739) > B’ham New St (0851)
XC B’ham NS (0903) > Wakefield (1049)
This is hence a theoretical delay of 56 minutes.
The strikes meant there were no trains back, so I received endorsements from two XC train guards and the Wakefield ticket office for travel via London. I elected to travel for the 1858 LNER southbound, which was then delayed by a half hour due to OHLE issues. My travel itinerary as a result became:
1A48 LNER Wakefield (1936, +37) to London KX (2132, +26)
(45 min MCT)
1D45 GWR London Pad (2248) to Oxford (2359)
If XC was running as timetabled, I would have chosen to depart earlier:
XC Wakefield (1823) to B’ham NS (2004)
XC B’ham NS (2103) to Oxford (2216)
Technically a delay of 103 minutes but when taking into account the earlier departure, a 68 minute increase in journey time.
If we ignore the XC timetable and consider an undelayed LNER service the itinerary is:
1A48 LNER Wakefield (1858) > KGX (2106)
(45 mins MCT)
1U36 GWR PAD (2202) > Didcot Pkwy (2239)
2L72 GWR Didcot Pkwy (2245) > Oxford (2308)
Hence a delay of 51 minutes.
Given this, should I be claiming:
- From XC for an outbound delay of 56 minutes; and/or
- From XC for an inbound delay of 68 minutes; and/or
- From LNER for an inbound delay of 51 minutes
And should I be claiming the tickets based on the ticket price of:
- Oxford <> Derby, Derby <> Sheffield, Sheffield <> Wakefield off peak returns; or
- Oxford > Derby, Derby > Sheffield, Sheffield > Wakefield, Wakefield > London and London > Oxford off peak singles; or
- Oxford > Derby, Derby > London, London > Oxford off peak singles, Derby <> Sheffield <> Wakefield off peak returns
or any other such combination?