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Delay Repay Refusing Trainline Ticket Image

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inkpaperblotts

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I'm on the verge of giving up on it, but I can't find a single method of uploading the receipt that the system will accept. I've tried a PDF. I've tried screenshooting the entire ticket and scrolling down several times which if they want to try reading an image that long sure. You can only upload one image and the PDF I download is seven pages long so I have no clue how to create an image from that. Trainline will not help me because Delay Repay isn't part of their system and I can't even figure out how to chat to a real person. What exactly am I meant to be uploading?
 
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Which toc delayed you and to which are you applying for delay repay?
 

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What's a toc? The company is GWR if that's what you mean?
Yes TOC is short for Train Operating Company and GWR is indeed one of them! We do try and avoid sliding into shorthand with newbies to the Forum but sometimes it's hard to break a habit :)

So could you explain a bit more about what's going on? I'm not familiar with GWRs process for claiming delay repay but with other companies usually a pdf of an e-ticket is all that is required and the site will let it be uploaded with no issue. Is it an e-ticket you need to claim for? More than one? What was the journey and what tickets were held (and what medium)?
 

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Yes TOC is short for Train Operating Company and GWR is indeed one of them! We do try and avoid sliding into shorthand with newbies to the Forum but sometimes it's hard to break a habit :)

So could you explain a bit more about what's going on? I'm not familiar with GWRs process for claiming delay repay but with other companies usually a pdf of an e-ticket is all that is required and the site will let it be uploaded with no issue. Is it an e-ticket you need to claim for? More than one? What was the journey and what tickets were held (and what medium)?
Hi, thanks for the reply and clarification! Okay so I've muddled my way through this slightly unhinged form before and been compensated, however this time it's just refusing the images.
I think I need to claim for 4 tickets as the trainline app did it as a splitsave, with 4 different ticket numbers (2 people travelling). They're all on the same email so I've been uploading the screenshot of that every time as I did before (definitely saved as a .jpg).

The info it gives is:
Please provide an image or scan of one of the following:

The PDF of the eTicket that was emailed to you, not a screenshot of the ticket on your phone.
Booking receipt, displaying your booking reference, journey details and price paid.

I just... don't know how to force it to accept it so I'm going to have to give up I think. I can't upload a PDF, it demands an image.
If I have the energy later I'll try it through my phone - I usually use my phone but thought I'd use a laptop this time.
 

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If it won't accept the tickets you might find it easier just to send an email to their customer services with the PDF as an attachment and clearly explain your planned journey and the trains you actually took and they should be able to process it manually for you.
 

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If it won't accept the tickets you might find it easier just to send an email to their customer services with the PDF as an attachment and clearly explain your planned journey and the trains you actually took and they should be able to process it manually for you.
A good fall back option - OP should make sure the e-mail states clearly that you are seeking Delay Repay for journey on x date at y time for a delay of xx minutes and a total ticket cost of £yy in a covering message - with ticket images attached and states that has not been possible to submit using the online system and ask them to help process the claim (I guess they would need the same bank account repayment details you would give them if submitting on line)

You could even do it on a paper delay replay claim form potentially with stuff printed out (tho obv should be easier to avoid that)

Maybe others will know how to solve the online problem of course, which would be preferable but sounds like you have wasted time on that already to no avail.
 

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Hi, thanks for the reply and clarification! Okay so I've muddled my way through this slightly unhinged form before and been compensated, however this time it's just refusing the images.
I think I need to claim for 4 tickets as the trainline app did it as a splitsave, with 4 different ticket numbers (2 people travelling). They're all on the same email so I've been uploading the screenshot of that every time as I did before (definitely saved as a .jpg).
That may be the problem; every time I've used any delay repay claim it has required each ticket image to be uploaded individually. Can you use the snipping tool to separate out the four ticket images, save them as individual files, start again and see if that works?
 

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I have seen that there is often a limit on the size of attachment you can put on a delay repayment claim, so maybe that is what is causing the problem, especially as there are 4 tickets. Sending an email as advised sbove should fix the problem.
 

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I've tried screenshooting the entire ticket and scrolling down several times which if they want to try reading an image that long sure. You can only upload one image and the PDF I download is seven pages long so I have no clue how to create an image from that.
Do you have multiple barcodes in your PDF? You only need to screenshot each barcode, so if there's pages without those, you can skip them.

If you have multiple barcodes, you're travelling with something called split tickets.

The GWR form will normally ask if you used multiple tickets to complete your journey. This option should be ticked if you have multiple barcodes, and usually it will ask you to upload a picture (screenshot) of each ticket and its applicable price.
 

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That may be the problem; every time I've used any delay repay claim it has required each ticket image to be uploaded individually. Can you use the snipping tool to separate out the four ticket images, save them as individual files, start again and see if that works?
When I made a Delay Repay claim from GWR, (Bristol-Cardiff turned back at Patchway due to problems in Severn Tunnel).I laid both return tickets (me and wife, paid for by me) on the glass of my scanner and created a landscape JPG. They refused it because the tickets weren't clearly cut in two. So I got out the scissors, scanned & re-submitted.
 

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The comment from @contrex may not be helpful. It seems to deal with an abandoned journey rather than a delayed one, in which case delay repay would not have been appropriate. It may also relate to CCSTs (Credit Card Sized Tickets) whereas @inkpaperblotts seems to be struggling with e-Tickets. The only time I had to submit images of CCSTs cut through was for trips booked before COVID and then abandoned because of it. Avanti have accepted scanned images of two CCSTs (each with 3 coupons, total 6) as part of a delay repay claim.
 

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When I made a Delay Repay claim from GWR, (Bristol-Cardiff turned back at Patchway due to problems in Severn Tunnel).I laid both return tickets (me and wife, paid for by me) on the glass of my scanner and created a landscape JPG. They refused it because the tickets weren't clearly cut in two. So I got out the scissors, scanned & re-submitted.
Interesting. They've twice paid out to me last year when the tickets were intact in the image.
 

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The comment from @contrex may not be helpful. It seems to deal with an abandoned journey rather than a delayed one, in which case delay repay would not have been appropriate. It may also relate to CCSTs (Credit Card Sized Tickets) whereas @inkpaperblotts seems to be struggling with e-Tickets. The only time I had to submit images of CCSTs cut through was for trips booked before COVID and then abandoned because of it. Avanti have accepted scanned images of two CCSTs (each with 3 coupons, total 6) as part of a delay repay claim.
Perhaps I should have clarified that my initial claim for an abandoned journey was rejected. Partner and I attempted to go from Stapleton Rd to Cardiff Central last December. 2 x Off Peak Day Return with old-fogey railcards. £20.50 total. Took the 11.10 Stapleton Rd - Filton Abbey Wood, to await the 11.37 to Cardiff. This was severely delayed, arrived 12.20. Someone announced on the PA that a train had failed in the Severn Tunnel and the driver was awaiting signaller advice. After about 10 minutes, told that the tunnel was being inspected for damage, then finally that we would proceed and await a 'slot through the tunnel'. Off we went to just past Pilning. Another wait, then we were told that the train was not proceeding any further, and was now going back directly to Bristol Temple Meads. Out we all got at around 14.00. I went to the ticket office to ask about options. A trainee at the window asked his mentor for advice. He said that a complete refund would not be suitable if we still needed to get home to Stapleton Road. We'd need the tickets to open the barriers (which all turned out to be open). He gave me a GWR 'Tell us Your Views" leaflet and an envelope and said I should use the feedback box to summarise the situation and ask for a refund. He said the Delay Repay route was not appropriate because the journey was not completed.

The tickets were the type I call 'bog paper' that come out of the on-train person's machine as one continuous strip, issued on the train from Filton Abbey Wood.

This claim was rejected twice. I used the claim category 'Refund Reason: Service Cancelled or Disrupted'.

1. Because the scan of the tickets did not clearly show that they were cut in two.

2. Having got out the scissors, and re-submitted, rejected again because 'We have checked our records and there is evidence that this ticket has been used for travel. Therefore, we are unable to provide a refund on this occasion.'

The resolution:

I called the GWR Customer Service phone number, and an agent sympathised with me, and after taking the latest claim ref number and asking me some personal details said 1. He would put a note on my account summarising the situation 2. I should make a claim for max delay repay (120+ mins). 3. If I got 'a decision that I didn't like' to call back. 4. As the previous day was now the 28th day since the journey so to do it at once. Cheque for full amount arrived one week later.

I was told on this this discussion that possibly GWR staff are aware of this type of issue, and the Delay Repay 'route' is the one to take.
 
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