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Deltic on the ECML 1Z55
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92042
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1Z55 appears to be back on the main line heading north.
Travellin’man
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Been taking water to an engine at Grantham but left with still only 1 working
Tbf I don't think the Deltic has a particularly larger chance of breaking down than most other trains in service on the network. It was generally a pretty good timekeeper when I was involved with railtours pre-COVID.
dan4291
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Just left Newark Northgate platform 3 79 minutes late according to RTT.
Except that this is the same problem as before. Pretty frustrating for anyone caught up in it.
Iskra
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Presumably, having two engines rather than one is an advantage in this situation though?
Of course.
Not really, it stops it from being a total dead duck but on half power it's going to cause chaos to the timetable given it was timed at 100mph.
Iskra
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They could always summon the class 90 at an appropriate location.
I wouldn't be surprised if the question re driver traction knowledge had already been asked.
Iskra
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They presumably paid a hefty sum for the privilege.
I believe tickets for this tour were £50 standard and £75 first class.
Iskra
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No, I mean before it was opened up to the public, someone had paid for it to run privately before the public were invited on at a relatively nominal fee.
I once did a tour which was hauled by Tornado outward and then Deltic return. Tornado kept time perfectly the Deltic failed near Drem and limped to Berwick before being cancelled. As I remarked at a time the problem with these vintage trains is they're not as reliable as modern stuff like Tornado
From the rear presumably, are they planning to leave it there all the way to Edinburgh?
You're not the only one. When a snowstorm brought most of Kent to a standstill a Tornado tour was the only thing leaving Victoria in the evening and there were a few bedraggled commuters who'd battled in that morning, as well as more than a few empty seats from punters who hadn't made it in for the tour. Making the best of the situation, the A1 Trust let anybody heading the same way jump on and then gave an impromptu press statement at Ashford about how the Trust would be willing to help advise SouthEastern on 'modernising' it's fleet.I once did a tour which was hauled by Tornado outward and then Deltic return. Tornado kept time perfectly the Deltic failed near Drem and limped to Berwick before being cancelled. As I remarked at a time the problem with these vintage trains is they're not as reliable as modern stuff like Tornado
Iskra
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Much less to go wrong on such primitive machinesI once did a tour which was hauled by Tornado outward and then Deltic return. Tornado kept time perfectly the Deltic failed near Drem and limped to Berwick before being cancelled. As I remarked at a time the problem with these vintage trains is they're not as reliable as modern stuff like Tornado
Not that 60163 hasn't got up to it's own mischief on the ECML fast lines beforeMuch less to go wrong on such primitive machines
Why not just run the 90 round on to the front?
Thank you.
101 minutes late passing Darlington.
Iskra
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Authentic BR experience
DaleCooper
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Will the charter company be paying the delay repay claims?
Delay repay is technically a separate thing from being charged for the delay minutes (also known as Schedule 8 payments). Charter companies are not part of the overall delay repay scheme, and what LSL offer their customers who have been delayed is their choice. Anybody on board an LNER or other train caught up in the Charter delays would be entitled to seek delay repay from their Operator, who in turn recieves the schedule 8 payments from the TRUST delay attribution process.
Regarding the Schedule 8 payments, I expect most of it to be swept up in the earlier incident, although LSL may have to accept the delays to 1Z55 (and any later movements) itself, depends if the attributors want to split the TIN or not.
Alanko
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I once did a tour which was hauled by Tornado outward and then Deltic return. Tornado kept time perfectly the Deltic failed near Drem and limped to Berwick before being cancelled. As I remarked at a time the problem with these vintage trains is they're not as reliable as modern stuff like Tornado
Alycidon back in April 2019. It suffered a hefty flashover that took out six traction motors and a generator.
The insurance company I believe paid out .. otherwise it would have surely been curtains. First of all one traction is not cheap never mind six and thats not counting the genny.
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Back on subject, seen some pics from the 'Cross - looks like a quite few turned out which is good to see.
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