DLR B23 Stock (CAF Inneo)

[HighSpeedSimon]

Spotted the new trains on test at Elverson Road and Lewisham today.

 

[Kay_M]

Spotted the new trains on test at Elverson Road and Lewisham today.

Impressive stuff. Hopefully they can actually get into service soon

 

[ScotGG]

The constant closures every single weekend are getting silly now. The network isn't reliable at all outside of a weekday. Must be costing TfL a ton in lost fare revenue.

 

[Taunton]

The constant closures every single weekend are getting silly now. The network isn't reliable at all outside of a weekday. Must be costing TfL a ton in lost fare revenue.

Quite so. It seems there's hardly a weekend in May when it is possible to go right through on the line from Tower Gateway to Beckton, for example. Rather like some stretches of the Overground, it seems the engineering requirements have got comfortable with disrupting everything for their own convenience. Bear in mind the old contracts with DLR operators used to specify each branch to be closed not more than one weekend per year.

 

[Thirteen]

I would assume these closures are so they can get the new rolling stock certified and into revenue earning service ASAP.

 

[Taunton]

I would assume these closures are so they can get the new rolling stock certified and into revenue earning service ASAP.

That's what they were doing more than 2 years ago. Look back in this thread to April 2023, with the same weekend closures and the same two trains; they don't seem to have any more delivered.

 

[Geogregor]

That's what they were doing more than 2 years ago. Look back in this thread to April 2023, with the same weekend closures and the same two trains; they don't seem to have any more delivered.

The whole fleet introduction is becoming a farce. Not yet at the class 701 level but give TfL some time and they might get there.

 

[Thirteen]

I'm not sure if the B23s rollout is going to take 6 years, that's just being hyperbolic.

 

[Taunton]

I'm not sure if the B23s rollout is going to take 6 years, that's just being hyperbolic.

Um ... they were ordered in June 2019. It's ALREADY been 6 years !

 

[OneTrackMinded]

Um ... they were ordered in June 2019. It's ALREADY been 6 years !

The original promised date of introduction is what's being referred to, not when they were ordered.

 

[Russel]

In reality, is there any chance of them being in service before the end of this year?

 

[Thirteen]

The original promised date of introduction is what's being referred to, not when they were ordered.

Keeping in mind that the pandemic happened which delayed things.

In reality, is there any chance of them being in service before the end of this year?

It's only May so I would say there is a chance, I would imagine it'll be like the Elizabeth Line where the rollout is announced only a short time before it begins.

 

[burneside]

Quite so. It seems there's hardly a weekend in May when it is possible to go right through on the line from Tower Gateway to Beckton, for example. Rather like some stretches of the Overground, it seems the engineering requirements have got comfortable with disrupting everything for their own convenience. Bear in mind the old contracts with DLR operators used to specify each branch to be closed not more than one weekend per year.

The Lewisham branch has just been closed for two consecutive weekends, including the bank holiday, and in the coming weeks it will be closed for three weekends out of five. It really is making life very difficult and inconvenient.

 

[Kay_M]

Keeping in mind that the pandemic happened which delayed things.


It's only May so I would say there is a chance, I would imagine it'll be like the Elizabeth Line where the rollout is announced only a short time before it begins.

One can only hope. This has been dragging out a little bit