cactustwirly
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Do through fares (ie Reading to Shanklin; Route Not via London) include the ferry or do I have to pay extra?
Do through fares (ie Reading to Shanklin; Route Not via London) include the ferry or do I have to pay extra?
The ferry or hovercraft, depending on the route stated on the ticket, is included. The default is is the Wightlink ferry from Portsmouth Harbour to Ryde , with the route utilising the hovercraft being clear by mentioning Hovertravel. Through tickets can also be booked to Yarmouth on the island using the ferry from Lymington.
What happens when there's no ferry route? It's just Not London, but a ticket from Southampton for example is routed via Hovertravel or via Wightlink.
Wightlink from Portsmouth Harbour to Ryde is the default if nothing is specified.
As I said...What happens when there's no ferry route? It's just Not London,
The default is is the Wightlink ferry from Portsmouth Harbour to Ryde
How do I prove this to Wightlink? Is it written somewhere
It doesn't need to be - it is the default route to an Island Line destination unless Hovertravel is specified.How do I prove this to Wightlink? Is it written somewhere
This pageIs it written somewhere
I would stunned if you had a problem with Whitelink. It's one of the few intermodal connections that is very well used is well known to relevant staff. This isn't an obscure benefit unlike other things.How do I prove this to Wightlink? Is it written somewhere
I would stunned if you had a problem with Whitelink. It's one of the few intermodal connections that is very well used is well known to relevant. This isn't an obscure benefit unlike other things.
Saying that, as far as I'm aware, you currently need to book a reservation on ferries in advance, no matter the ticket you have.I would stunned if you had a problem with Whitelink. It's one of the few intermodal connections that is very well used is well known to relevant staff. This isn't an obscure benefit unlike other things.
I read somewhere (earlier today) that the bus link at Southampton is not operating at present.Also worth noting that as well as the mentioned fact you can also get National Rail tickets to Yarmouth (routed via Lymington and the ferry from there) the same is also true of Southampton where you can get through tickets to Cowest (west or east) routed either via the RedJat catamaran (to West Cowes) or the Red Funnel Car ferry (to East Cowes). These include use of the bus between Southampton Central and the ferry port (the bus used to be free, but no longer is unless you have a through ticket to the ferries).
I travelled on a through ticket from London to Shanklin a couple of weeks ago. There was a notice up at the ferry terminal about needing reservations but the guy just glanced at my ticket and waved me through.Saying that, as far as I'm aware, you currently need to book a reservation on ferries in advance, no matter the ticket you have.
Saying that, as far as I'm aware, you currently need to book a reservation on ferries in advance, no matter the ticket you have.
suggests that it's probably not something you need worry about too much.I travelled on a through ticket from London to Shanklin a couple of weeks ago. There was a notice up at the ferry terminal about needing reservations but the guy just glanced at my ticket and waved me through.
The site also says 'Passengers must arrive at least 15 minutes before the scheduled sailing time', but from my memory of previous discussions here, and making the journey myself on a few occasions, I think this is a permanent statement which is not in fact enforced, at least for people coming off trains. (Can anyone confirm this?)
The timetable did have a comment something along the lines that connections to the ferry couldn't be guaranteed but it's what the journey planners etc would show too. I don't think the 15 minute thing is ever enforced.
Yes - @cactustwirly, you can be confident about that especially as SWR describe the tickets (same prices as on nationalrail.co.uk) asI would stunned if you had a problem with Whitelink. It's one of the few intermodal connections that is very well used is well known to relevant staff. This isn't an obscure benefit unlike other things.
As seems strongly implied by nationalrail.co.uk's results page: "Other services you can travel on". Or if you use the link on the SWR page and choose a fare, you see "Valid on all services by the route and Train Operator shown" and "Only select a service if you want to reserve a seat".There is no requirement to book in advance on the Wightlink ferry
Can anyone explain why this change has been made? It does seem a prime example of not thinking through the consequences.
Unless it has changed with the new-design tickets, the route section on the ticket itself specifies it, e.g. "Route: ANY PERM+WIGHTLK". Though as others have said, ferry staff rarely do more than glance at train tickets.How do I prove this to Wightlink? Is it written somewhere
Unless it has changed with the new-design tickets, the route section on the ticket itself specifies it, e.g. "Route: ANY PERM+WIGHTLK". Though as others have said, ferry staff rarely do more than glance at train tickets.
Tickets via the hovercraft show something like "Route: ANY PERM+HVRTVL" (I don't have one to hand just now).
Yes, that's true: the Wightlink-specifying one only appears on certain tickets - I believe anything for which the route would otherwise be "Any Permitted" (e.g. Hove-Ryde Esplanade).It doesn't on all of them. As an example Bletchley-Ryde Esplanade route "KEN OLYMPIA" are valid on Wightlink but this is not explicitly stated.
Don't know if anyone's seen the slightly silly text you get on some TVMs when you buy an Any Permitted routed ticket stating "not valid on Hovertravel" even where your journey goes nowhere near it? That's why - Hovertravel requires explicit routeing, Wightlink via Ryde is the default.
Yes, that's true: the Wightlink-specifying one only appears on certain tickets - I believe anything for which the route would otherwise be "Any Permitted" (e.g. Hove-Ryde Esplanade).
How bizarre! I had a look on Brfares.com, using High Wycombe-Ryde Esplanade, and according to the expert mode there is a whole swathe of stations just outside the London Zones to the west, north and east which don't have any walk-up fares! http://www.brfares.com/#expert?orig=HWY&dest=RYD I wonder why that is?I went looking for some Any Permitted without that and found none. What I did find, which was interesting, is that from High Wycombe the only through fares are Advances, which is surprising - there are through fares from everywhere else I tried, yes, even Wick!
Edit: Chiltern in general, it seems. No fares at all from Bicester, not even Advances. Odd.