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Does the average home contain household items that were made from scrapped trains?

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Could there be things in my house that came from scrapped (recycled) trains? The scrap metal from trains are used for lots of different things and there is no way of knowing, but I like the idea that my Microwave could have once been part of a class 86, or my Iron could have been part of a class 50 in a previous life.

What everyday household items are most likely to have been manufactured from scrap metal that was once part of a train?
 
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How would anyone ever know? There won't be traceability.
There is some traceability because it is possible to know whether the household items were manufactured in the UK or elsewhere.


What everyday household items are most likely to have been manufactured from scrap metal that was once part of a train?
Many household items are not manufactured in the UK. In particular lots are made in China. It is hard to imagine that products made in China are cheap because they used steel recycled from UK scrapyards. On the other hand, products made in the UK are more likely to use steel sourced in the UK.

You could start by trying to find what household items you have that were manufactured in the UK.
 
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Metal recycling is a global business. Once it's broken into small pieces it's shipped around the world as if it were a natural ore.
It could end up anywhere. As an example just go down to the docks in Liverpool and see the mountains of scrap steel there awaiting export.
China takes a lot of it, so does India, Korea, anywhere where there's demand for manufacturing.
 

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I have a doorstop which I'm pretty sure originated as a lump of BS110A flatbottom rail.
 

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There is some traceability because it is possible to know whether the household items were manufactured in the UK or elsewhere.



Many household items are not manufactured in the UK. In particular lots are made in China. It is hard to imagine that products made in China are cheap because they used steel recycled from UK scrapyards. On the other hand, products made in the UK are more likely to use steel sourced in the UK.

You could start by trying to find what household items you have that were manufactured in the UK.
They wouldn't necessarily have to be manufactured in the UK:

Scrap metal exports from the United Kingdom for 2021 amounted to just above eight million metric tons.
Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/475161/scrap-exports-uk/
 

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I would say it would be unlikely to be a UK train. While possible there isn't that many trains to start with, compared with the millions of cars that are scrapped each year.
 

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Is there a country breakdown of where those UK steel exports go to? Does any go to China?
There probably is somewhere but I don't know where. I'd guess a fair bit went to Asia considering that's where the much of the world's steel working capacity is located.
 

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Does the average home contain household items that were made from scrapped trains? How would you ever know? Might just be a few households out there with 'salvaged' cups and/or other items of BR era crockery.

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(Pic of BR era olive-green coloured cups/saucer/crockery).
 

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Does the average home contain household items that were made from scrapped trains? How would you ever know? Might just be a few households out there with 'salvaged' cups and/or other items of BR era crockery.

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(Pic of BR era olive-green coloured cups/saucer/crockery).
Look on the bottom of those for the year of manufacture.

Something else to 'collect'!
 

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I remember talking to vic berry at his Leicester scrap yard.
He was selling loco and wagon axles that went to Belgium for razor blade manufacturing and special steel products.
 

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What everyday household items are most likely to have been manufactured from scrap metal that was once part of a train?
Around the 1960s, when the railways were undergoing drastic contraction - with line closures and scrapping of large numbers of steam locomotives & surplus rolling-stock - the railways generated huge tonnages of scrap metal each year. To such an extent it distorted the supply & demand operation of the scrap component within the UK steel industry back then.

During that period, there would be:-
  • Much less globalised markets for scrap metals. It's likely British scrap mostly (but not entirely) stayed onshore to be recycled in British steel mills.
  • More production of commodity raw steel for use by British industry within Britain - rather than focusing on specialised manufacturing high-value steel as now.
  • A very much higher proportion of consumer goods & appliances manufactured in Britain for British (and export) markets.
The result would be, if you bought typical British-made consumer durables in the late 1960s & into the '70s - say, a Belling electric oven, a Hotpoint twin-tub washing machine, or a Bulldog garden spade - there's a good chance that some proportion of the iron within might have come from a Black 5, or parts of four-wheel coal wagons, or rails recovered from the Southern's 'Withered Arm'. Of course, you'd never know from exactly where, or how much of it was in there.

If a mere 5.5g of ex-railway iron had found its way into fabrication of your washing machine, or new Austin Maxi, that's still around a whopping 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 'railway' atoms.

These days, the Korean, Indian or Chinese steel in your washing machine or 4x4 vehicle might still contain some recycled train - just not a familiar British train.


Speaking of recycling materials - Bill Bryson's book A Short History of Nearly Everything talks about 'recycled' atoms which go to make up the human body . . .
Bill Bryson said:
Every atom you possess has almost certainly passed through several stars and been part of millions of organisms on its way to becoming you.

We are each so atomically numerous and so vigorously recycled at death that a significant number of our atoms - up to a billion for each of us, it has been suggested - probably once belonged to Shakespeare.

A billion more each came from Buddha and Genghis Khan and Beethoven, and any other historical figure you care to name.
So we are all reincarnations - though short-lived ones. When we die, our atoms will disassemble and move off to find new uses elsewhere - as part of a leaf or other human being or drop of dew.”
Presumably the billion atoms Bryson is referring to are mainly carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, plus a few other lighter elements, which would be readily circulated in gaseous form. The calcium atoms from Beethoven's bones and the lead which allegedly poisoned him are much less mobile and presumably have generally stayed within the vicinity of his grave (at least over the almost 200 years since his death).

The hypothesis also suggests that it's not just admirable historical celebrities like Shakespeare, Buddha and Beethoven we share our atoms with. The 'vigorous mixing process' after death also means we each probably have another billion or so atoms which were once part of Jack the Ripper's and Adolf Hitler's bodies.
 

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