ECML -ohle issue at Stevenage (20/09)

[philjo]

ECML services currently have long delays at Stevenage due to overhead wire problems.

Incident: Stevenage | National Rail

Disruption at Stevenage. Find details of all current incidents on National Rail Enquiries.

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Service alteration details​

Incident reported: 20 Sep 2023 at 19:53

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Last updated

20 Sep 2023 at 20:21
Train operators affected

Great NorthernGrand CentralHull TrainsLNERLumoThameslink

Route(s) affected​

Great Northern between Moorgate and Stevenage: and between London Kings Cross and Letchworth Garden City / Cambridge / Ely / Kings Lynn
Grand Central between London Kings Cross and Bradford Interchange / Sunderland
Hull Trains between London Kings Cross and Hull / Beverley
LNER between London Kings Cross and Leeds / Harrogate / Lincoln / York / Newcastle / Edinburgh / Aberdeen
Lumo between London Kings Cross and Edinburgh
Thameslink between Horsham and Peterborough: and Brighton / London Kings Cross and Cambridge

Description​

Damage to the overhead electric wires at Stevenage means that some lines are blocked. Trains may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer advice
Great Northern and Thameslink
There is a reduced service between London Kings Cross and Stevenage, Hertford North, Peterborough and Cambridge tonight. Please allow extra time to complete your journey, check station screens and planners for the latest information and be aware that the trains that do run might be busier than normal.
You can use your ticket on the following, at no extra cost:

• Mutually on Thameslink and Great Northern trains
• London Underground via any reasonable route
• London Buses between central London and Potters Bar
• Greater Anglia between Cambridge and Hertford East, which is a 20-minute walk from Hertford North
• Elizabeth Line between Farringdon and London Liverpool Street – change at London Liverpool Street for Enfield Town on the London Overground route
• London Overground – Between London Liverpool Street and Enfield Town, which is a 10-minute walk from Enfield Chase

LNER
You may use your ticket on the following services:

• TransPennine Express between Manchester, Leeds and York/Newcastle, via any reasonable route
• Northern between York, Doncaster and Sheffield, via any reasonable route
• East Midlands Railway between London St Pancras International and Sheffield
• CrossCountry between Sheffield, Doncaster/Leeds, York and Newcastle/Edinburgh, via any reasonable route
• Hull Trains between London Kings Cross and Doncaster

Check before you travel:
You can check your journey using the National Rail Enquiries real-time Journey Planner
Compensation:
You may be entitled to compensation if you experience a delay in completing your journey today. Please keep your train ticket and make a note of your journey, as both will be required to support any claim.

 

[zwk500]

ECML services currently have long delays at Stevenage due to overhead wire problems.

Incident: Stevenage | National Rail

Disruption at Stevenage. Find details of all current incidents on National Rail Enquiries.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

Looks like the fasts are blocked from OTT: https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/ecm1

Trains being worked round the slows between Woolmer Green Jn and Hitchin.

 

[800001]

Looks like the fasts are blocked from OTT: https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/ecm1

Trains being worked round the slows between Woolmer Green Jn and Hitchin.

Slow lines open both directions, 1E21 stranded on the Up fast with potential pantograph damage.
Services on the Up unable to call at Stevenage due to wires hanging down on up fast.

 

[Class15]

Brilliant day isn’t it!

1. Points failure at Navarino Road Jn causing chaos on the NLL
2. Blockage on the DC lines in Hatch End area
3. Disruption between MKC and Northampton on the WCML
4. This.

 

[zwk500]

Slow lines open both directions, 1E21 stranded on the Up fast with potential pantograph damage.
Services on the Up unable to call at Stevenage due to wires hanging down on up fast.

Oof that's going to be a big night shift to get that back for tomorrow morning. Was there a separate incident at Welwyn also earlier?

 

[800001]

Oof that's going to be a big night shift to get that back for tomorrow morning. Was there a separate incident at Welwyn also earlier?

A person was reported to be wrong side of Broadwater bridge. A caution was in place while police searched for the person.

 

[Magdalia]

Oof that's going to be a big night shift to get that back for tomorrow morning.

Here in the Fens it has been raining heavily all evening, and I suspect Stevenage is no different. It won't be pleasant for those on site.

 

[357]

I'm on the 19:33 from London. It's now 21:48 and we aren't even at PBO yet.

The guard has made frequent announcements but a shame they don't have enough people to enable at seat food ordering or hand out at least some water.

We seem to be averaging a maximum of about 15mph. Things are very congested and slow moving.

 

[800001]

I'm on the 19:33 from London. It's now 21:48 and we aren't even at PBO yet.

The guard has made frequent announcements but a shame they don't have enough people to enable at seat food ordering or hand out at least some water.

We seem to be averaging a maximum of about 15mph. Things are very congested and slow moving.

Could have been worse at least You’re moving……unlike the customers on 1E21 still sat stranded

 

[Robski_]

I'm on the 19:33 from London. It's now 21:48 and we aren't even at PBO yet.

The guard has made frequent announcements but a shame they don't have enough people to enable at seat food ordering or hand out at least some water.

We seem to be averaging a maximum of about 15mph. Things are very congested and slow moving.

Level crossings have failed between Huntingdon and Peterborough.

 

[357]

Could of been worse at least You’re moving……unlike the customers on 1E21 still sat stranded

Still? Christ.

However in the current weather I'd probably say the train is the safest place to be rather than a track or train to train evacuation

 

[Samzino]

Dang 1E21 is still stuck around the Knebworth Area. Crazy

Just noticed it was the 1530 Departure from Edinburgh due 19:50 at Kings Cross. Driver and TM must be working overtime.

Realtime Trains | 1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Stevenage | 20/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 1E21 1530 departure from Edinburgh to Stevenage on 20/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Bald Rick]

I‘m not far away and it has been biblical rain for a couple of hours. The very heaviest rain will shortly be right over Stansted.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Dang 1E21 is still stuck around the Knebworth Area. Crazy

Looking at when they passed Stevenage, they've been stuck 2 hours 20 minutes.

Realtime Trains | 1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Stevenage | 20/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 1E21 1530 departure from Edinburgh to Stevenage on 20/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Stevenage [SVG] - due 1927 - actual pass 1939¼ - delay +12
Langley Jn - due 1927½ - actual pass 1939¾ - delay +12

 

[ChiefPlanner]

Terrible weather with busts of monsoon like rail , one feels for those engaged in what will be a very difficult night to rescue some sort of service for the morning.

Thameslink Midland taking some passengers for Luton and travel across. Very impressed with the Midland passengers helping out with onward advice , especially with some passengers having flat phone batteries.

 

[Samzino]

Looking at when they passed Stevenage, they've been stuck 2 hours 20 minutes.

Realtime Trains | 1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Stevenage | 20/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 1E21 1530 departure from Edinburgh to Stevenage on 20/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Yeh just had a look at the old signalmaps, some unlucky Edinburgh passengers are on a 6hr and 30min journey and counting already, train crew must be over hours by now.

 

[uglymonkey]

It's been raining all evening,so not good ( I'm up near Letchworth.)

 

[Steve Harris]

It looks like 1N35 has sat down on the Down Fast just south of Digswell Jnc with Signal Maps showing at least 2 trains having been diverted around it via the Down Slow.

Edit: It's now back on the move 28 Late.

 

[zwk500]

It looks like 1N35 has sat down on the Down Fast just south of Digswell Jnc with Signal Maps showing at least 2 trains having been diverted around it via the Down Slow.

Just been given a green so if it did it's back up and running by the looks of things

 

[800001]

It looks like 1N35 has sat down on the Down Fast just south of Digswell Jnc with Signal Maps showing at least 2 trains having been diverted around it via the Down Slow.

1N35 will do a side to side evacuation of 1E21, it will set back into Knebworth to drop the customers up, who will then be picked up by another service for onward movement to London.
N35 had to switch to diesel before it could move forward.

 

[Steve Harris]

1N35 will do a side to side evacuation of 1E21, it will set back into Knebworth to drop this customers up, who will then be picked up by another service for onward movement to London.
N35 had to switch to diesel before it could move forward.

Thanx for the info.

 

[Samzino]

I assume this will be a logistical nightmare for getting some of these displaced units and trains back for tomorrow service and thats assuming the OHLE isn't damaged as some are claiming

 

[800001]

I assume this will be a logistical nightmare for getting some of these displaced units and trains back for tomorrow service and thats assuming the OHLE isn't damaged as some are claiming

Slow lines would be open and at that point in morning Hertford would be available to be used.

 

[irp]

1N35 will do a side to side evacuation of 1E21, it will set back into Knebworth to drop the customers up, who will then be picked up by another service for onward movement to London.
N35 had to switch to diesel before it could move forward.

That would explain what I'm seeing on Open Train Times and Signal Maps. Thanks for the info

 

[pokemonsuper9]

I assume this will be a logistical nightmare for getting some of these displaced units and trains back for tomorrow service and thats assuming the OHLE isn't damaged as some are claiming

The stranded 801207 definitely won't be reaching Newcastle on time tonight (00:41)

Also just looking around and https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Y54010/2023-09-20/detailed is saying there's a level crossing failure, I assume this is someone just putting the wrong code in (especially since the outbound has been cancelled due to the wires) or is a level crossing also being annoying?

"This service is cancelled due to a level crossing failure (ID)."

 

[skyhigh]

thats assuming the OHLE isn't damaged as some are claiming

The OHLE is definitely damaged.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

The OHLE is definitely damaged.

Could 1E21 (801207) be stuck in it and that's why they're not just dragging it (or using their small diesel engines)?

 

[800001]

Could 1N35 (801207) be stuck in it and that's why they're not just dragging it (or using their small diesel engines)?

As above N35 is performing an evacuation of customers, after that it goes forward to Newcastle

 

[irp]

The stranded 801207 definitely won't be reaching Newcastle on time tonight (00:41)

Also just looking around and https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Y54010/2023-09-20/detailed is saying there's a level crossing failure, I assume this is someone just putting the wrong code in (especially since the outbound has been cancelled due to the wires) or is a level crossing also being annoying?

I saw a post earlier saying there was a Level Crossing Failure as well.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

As above N35 is performing an evacuation of customers, after that it goes forward to Newcastle

Yep, got confused and put 1N35 instead of 1E21 (edited to correct)