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Also a path from Barrow Hill to Etches Park about the same time.
 

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170416 was on the 16:51 Liverpool - Nottingham service today, saw it at Manchester this evening.

Always nice to see some 170s venture back up here on it's old stomping ground.
 

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170416 was on the 16:51 Liverpool - Nottingham service today, saw it at Manchester this evening.

Always nice to see some 170s venture back up here on it's old stomping ground.
That's a Scottish one, I doubt it ever went there until EMR starting bouncing them up there during the summer as a desperation move. The odd 2 car does make it up there but the results are rarely pleasant to see.
 

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Not sure if it's been covered here but according to the December issue of Rail Express magazine 171201 is due to transfer from GTR to EMR as 170421 in late 2023
 

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Not sure if it's been covered here but according to the December issue of Rail Express magazine 171201 is due to transfer from GTR to EMR as 170421 in late 2023
Might have been, might have not - I can’t remember. But yes, 201 is only a temporary sublease to Southern whilst the reform program is completed on its original 171 sets.
 

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Does anyone know when the rest of the TFW 170s will be transferring to EMR?
 

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Thank you for your replies. I had thought it would be sooner than that with 175s replacing the 170s at TFW as a result of 197s replacing some 175s.
 

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It doesn't look like 5M59 ran from Tyseley L.M.D to Etches Park today. Anyone know why? I'd guess its a case of WMT having trouble with the 196s so wanting to keep as many 170s as they can for as long as possible?

170509 arrived at Etches Park from Barrow Hill though
 

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It doesn't look like 5M59 ran from Tyseley L.M.D to Etches Park today. Anyone know why? I'd guess its a case of WMT having trouble with the 196s so wanting to keep as many 170s as they can for as long as possible?

170509 arrived at Etches Park from Barrow Hill though
How many 170s does that leave at barrow hill now then or have they all moved to etches park now .lost track . Many thanks
 

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It doesn't look like 5M59 ran from Tyseley L.M.D to Etches Park today. Anyone know why? I'd guess its a case of WMT having trouble with the 196s so wanting to keep as many 170s as they can for as long as possible?
I’d have thought that, if the DfT have issued a directive to say that all 170/5s bar 6(?) are going to move without exception to EMR, there is nothing WMT can do about it. Tough that they’re struggling with the 196s; but the issues should have been sorted by now and, as we know, EMR’s Regional operation has been in a dire state for too long.

Overall, EMR have had a good bounce back post-Covid; so that, combined with the chronic Regional situation, would give justification for Regional services to be enhanced. And in any case, EMR has waited years for these 170s through absolutely no fault of its own. Something had to give eventually and it finally did a few weeks ago.
 

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With the races on at Uttoxeter today the Crewe - Newark's have been strengthened to 4 car's on all diagrams. Surprisingly all of them are 170's meaning around half of 2 car 170's are on the route today. Was half expecting the odd 158 and maybe a 156 for good measure.
Pairings being:
170503+170533
170273+170517
170511+170532
170270+170515
 

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With the races on at Uttoxeter today the Crewe - Newark's have been strengthened to 4 car's on all diagrams. Surprisingly all of them are 170's meaning around half of 2 car 170's are on the route today. Was half expecting the odd 158 and maybe a 156 for good measure.
Pairings being:
170503+170533
170273+170517
170511+170532
170270+170515
Still bursting, with lots of Manchester people travelling via Stoke too. A good effort really, as best as can be managed in the circumstances.
 

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With the races on at Uttoxeter today the Crewe - Newark's have been strengthened to 4 car's on all diagrams. Surprisingly all of them are 170's meaning around half of 2 car 170's are on the route today. Was half expecting the odd 158 and maybe a 156 for good measure.
Pairings being:
170503+170533
170273+170517
170511+170532
170270+170515
Makes sense. For packed trains, the dwell times on 156s or 158s can get ridiculously long (as often observed on the Liverpool-Nottingham)
 

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Did another 170 come over from WMT yesterday or have the transfers been stopped for a bit? I'm not seeing a path for one on Realtime Trains.
 

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Did another 170 come over from WMT yesterday or have the transfers been stopped for a bit? I'm not seeing a path for one on Realtime Trains.
Probably stopped for a bit with the strikes and Christmas.
 

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