Because the refurbishment is already eye wateringly expensive. Its gutting that it can't be made even more perfect though. Eg toilet sinks are the same original green ones, panels still look grubby and haven't been repainted.
Agreed. As you say, it’s such a shame that things have been left out; but at least a major wrong (ie EMR’s sometimes-terrible non-IC stock condition) is being put right.
Liverpool to Norwich is one of the highest earning service groups at EMR. It accounts for 15% of revenue on its own which when you compare to the 2 TPH intercity routes is quite high.
Sorry, I was meaning to place emphasis on Regional routes excluding Liverpool-Norwich (which I think account for 5%?).
5% in theory, I suspect that service groups like Derby to Crewe are allocated a fair share of the rather large Scotland and Wales to Derby market, see also Nottingham to Lincoln.
Yeah, 170530 is also missing a table. View attachment IMG_1814-min.jpg
They're single piece mouldings. People keep sitting on the end of them and cracking them in half which results in them having to be removed as they'd be a hazard in the event of accident.
And of course in this day and age of DfT control, they won’t be allowing expensive refurbishments with the levels of grandeur that we’ve seen in the past. Those days of total strip out and replace refurbishments are well in the past.
Indeed, but we’re talking about some (relatively speaking) small things that have been missed out. For example, the spec includes brand new seats (170/5) but not a deep clean of the panels; it includes enhanced PIS but they cannot replace an old toilet sink.
Oh indeed, not cleaning the ceiling panels is disappointing. I’d rather that they were repainted but even a deep clean would have made them a little more presentable. Perhaps EMR will be hoping the big windows of the Turbostar will be enough to distract passengers instead?
Yep, EMR can no doubt spin it so that people can enjoy the view through the large windows (mind you, at least you don’t see the outside in the same way as you did when on board 156917… the corrosion holes in the shell gave natural light with the bonus of air circulationOh indeed, not cleaning the ceiling panels is disappointing. I’d rather that they were repainted but even a deep clean would have made them a little more presentable. Perhaps EMR will be hoping the big windows of the Turbostar will be enough to distract passengers instead?
)According to the summary of EMR's 25/26 business plan, the first refurbished 360 is "Autumn of 2025".
That depends upon your point of view really!
