Peter Kelford
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The European equivalent to this thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/is-there-demand-for-more-sleeper-services.207183/
The business case in the UK only for sleeper services would appear weak at present as most major city pairs are too close to each other to be viable, save perhaps for some exceptions. Whilst OBB has undoubtedly started to capture the potential of its part of Europe, what sorts of routes would be viable in Europe as a whole, notably France, Spain, Italy and Northern Europe.
a] Relevant to the region in question:
N.B. This map does not take into account frequency (there are some seasonal once-weekly trains for example which are inconsistently marked, some missing, some marked, others marked as all year round)
b] Some routes like Paris-Nice, but unfortunately I can't seem to find anything more than anecdotal evidence.
c] It would appear as if the Western half of Europe is underserved by sleepers, routes like Paris - Barcelona are also viable.
The business case in the UK only for sleeper services would appear weak at present as most major city pairs are too close to each other to be viable, save perhaps for some exceptions. Whilst OBB has undoubtedly started to capture the potential of its part of Europe, what sorts of routes would be viable in Europe as a whole, notably France, Spain, Italy and Northern Europe.
For a meaningful discussion, I think it would be really helpful to list:
a) the sleeper routes which already exist in Europe
b) the routes which have recently existed but have stopped due to lack of demand
c) some gaps you identify in those routes
a] Relevant to the region in question:
N.B. This map does not take into account frequency (there are some seasonal once-weekly trains for example which are inconsistently marked, some missing, some marked, others marked as all year round)
b] Some routes like Paris-Nice, but unfortunately I can't seem to find anything more than anecdotal evidence.
c] It would appear as if the Western half of Europe is underserved by sleepers, routes like Paris - Barcelona are also viable.
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