Excessing a return portion (SOT-WVH-HSD)

[thewolf]

Hi all (in particular yorkie, I imagine ), need a bit of clarifying over excessing a ticket...


Came back to uni yesterday, but rather than starting from Hamstead or New Street, ended up getting dropped off at Wolverhampton and got an Off-Peak Return to Stoke with my YP railcard at £9.45. When I go back home though, I'll need to get back to Hamstead (which costs £9.90 for an OPR).

Just need to confirm this is how it works:

Ask to get an over distance excess from Wolves - Hamstead? As its just the return portion I'm excessing, it will cost half of the difference between the two prices - £9.90 and £9.45 - so 27 or 28 pence? Although I'm not that fussed if its the whole 45p I have to pay - Just don't really want to have to get another ticket from Wolves - Hamstead which is £2.80.


Thanks.

 

[LexyBoy]

Just need to confirm this is how it works:

Ask to get an over distance excess from Wolves - Hamstead? As its just the return portion I'm excessing, it will cost half of the difference between the two prices - £9.90 and £9.45 - so 27 or 28 pence? Although I'm not that fussed if its the whole 45p I have to pay - Just don't really want to have to get another ticket from Wolves - Hamstead which is £2.80.

Half the difference is correct for an over-distance excess, it should be £0.28 (assuming the fares you quote are correct, I've not checked).

 

[thewolf]

Ok, thanks for that.

 

[island]

Are you sure, LexyBoy? I think there was a change in the excess rules last September so that it would be the full difference to change ticket type or go overdistance; half difference applies only to a route change.

 

[yorkie]

Oh no, not this again!

It's a lottery, and no-one *really* knows.

I've sent the OP a PM, but really as long as he's charged an excess, it doesn't matter the exact calculation as it's a lot cheaper than buying a new ticket.

 

[LexyBoy]

Are you sure, LexyBoy? I think there was a change in the excess rules last September so that it would be the full difference to change ticket type or go overdistance; half difference applies only to a route change.

I was wondering about that (I remembered something similar, but couldn't remember which excess types it was) - I was looking at the EC rules here, but they are from February 2010, so I think you're right.

As yorkie says though, it will depend on who is issuing the excess and in any case, it's much cheaper than a new ticket.

 

[Solent&Wessex]

As I too have posted many times before, the rules have now changed. When travelling over distance the rules officially say that the full difference in fare is charged, even if excessing in one direction only.

Over-riding (travelling beyond the destination on the ticket)

Return Tickets

a) Travel in one direction


Anytime / Anytime Day

Off-Peak / Off-Peak Day

Super Off-Peak / Super Off-Peak Day


Charge the difference between the fare paid and the appropriate Return fare for the throughout journey. If cheaper, charge the appropriate Single fare for the extra journey, but must comply with NCoC 19.

The reason you may still get charged half the difference in some cases is because a) some types of Ticket Issuing Machines haven't had their software updated to reflect this change, so still calculate half the difference or b) the staff member hasn't been briefed on the changes.