First Class Upgrade Cost - Cheshire Day Ranger

[ServerHoster]

Looking at doing a Cheshire Day Ranger soon and want to upgrade to first class between Crewe and Liverpool. I always thought it was the difference between the SDS (standard day single) and the FDS (first day single) if you have a ranger ticket. So £1.70 in this case.

Asked Avanti to confirm that cost and they said "sorry, my system won't load so I can't check."

Asked NRE then who said "sorry, there isn't a first class Cheshire Day Ranger, but standard class is £25.90"

So, could I get confirmation that:
a. you can upgrade to first class (for a single journey) on a Cheshire Day Ranger.
b. that it costs £1.70 from Crewe to Liverpool.
c. that it can be obtained at a ticket office

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Similar question asked before a few years ago. See link below...

Might well be possible but not sure if there was a 100% definite consensus ...

Are rover tickets eligible for a first class upgrade?

Hello all, While trying to use Virgin Train's weekend upgrade I was told I could not upgrade to 1st as the West Midlands rover ticket I was using was 'an already discounted ticket'. Is this correct? Thanks in advance.

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[janb]

a) Yes. The internal knowledgebase is clear on this.
b) Yes.
c) In theory, yes. In practice, it will depend on skill, knowledge, and with Avanti possibly equipment.

 

[Merseysider]

d) it might also depend on their willingness to allow someone to sit in 1st & eat their food for £1.70!

 

[gray1404]

They may not even be a ticket check between Crewe and Liverpool and I doubt any food will be served at that point in the journey anyway.

 

[Deafdoggie]

They may not even be a ticket check between Crewe and Liverpool and I doubt any food will be served at that point in the journey anyway.

Almost certainly you'll get nothing on board, but there are lounges.

 

[robbeech]

d) it might also depend on their willingness to allow someone to sit in 1st & eat their food for £1.70!

So the rules only apply if the railway say they do on the day? That seems very …….. railway like

 

[ServerHoster]

Unsuccessful. Got the Cheshire day ranger but no upgrade. I’ll try another ticket office.

 

[L401CJF]

They may not even be a ticket check between Crewe and Liverpool and I doubt any food will be served at that point in the journey anyway.

There was on the Avanti service I used yesterday just as we left Crewe

 

[Mcr Warrior]

How exactly is the first class upgrade calculated?

If it's just £1.70 between Crewe and Liverpool, then subject to availability/willingness of ticketing staff to issue same, this seems really good value for a 35+ mile journey!

 

[ServerHoster]

How exactly is the first class upgrade calculated?

If it's just £1.70 between Crewe and Liverpool, then subject to availability/willingness of ticketing staff to issue same, this seems really good value for a 35+ mile journey!

Difference between the standard day single (£15.20) and first day single (£16.90) if you have a ranger ticket.

 

[ainsworth74]

Asked NRE then who said "sorry, there isn't a first class Cheshire Day Ranger, but standard class is £25.90"

Good lord NRE. They didn't even engage with the question properly!

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Difference between the standard day single (£15.20) and first day single (£16.90) if you have a ranger ticket.

Thanks for clarifying. Had wondered, given that the 'Cheshire Day Ranger' is essentially an off peak product, being only available after 0900 on weekdays.

 

[Starmill]

There is not a general right to upgrade to First Class clearly codified in the NRCoT, as there is, for example, to an excess to change the route.

So you're relying on the price being offered. Once you have given consideration for it however (in this case once you've paid) you're undoubtedly entitled to use First Class.

 

[ServerHoster]

Just tried a different station. “Sorry, they only do them day rangers in standard class.”

 

[Merseysider]

Something tells me if you sat in 1st on the day, they’d ignore your Cheshire Day Ranger & try and insist you needed a new ticket... good luck on finding somewhere to sell you the upgrade!

 

[AlterEgo]

Just tried a different station. “Sorry, they only do them day rangers in standard class.”

Booking offices are great, aren’t they?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Booking offices are great, aren’t they?

Meanwhile, in Switzerland, you can get a "Klassenwechsel" from the TVM. We really have got this spectacularly wrong in the UK.

 

[John Luxton]

I have always wondered why there has not been a first class offering on area day rangers and weekly rovers.

in 78/80 I had a few rover tickets including all lines and also West of England and London Midland.

On the West of England Rover there was a first class option as with the London Midland one. Basically the usual 50% extra.

Though the local area rovers didn't have such an offering

From what I can see the only rover now offering first is the All Lines.

John

 

[Starmill]

Until recently it was also possible to get a First Class Anglia Plus Rover. But then almost all of the first class was withdrawn.