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Always been a summer only call AFAIK.
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Always been a summer only call AFAIK.
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Correct! I believe the date has been extended on occasions when there were large numbers of visitors in the Holiday Park, but generally it is not served from commencement of the winter timetable.
Software in the blind displays not updated unfortunately.
fgwrich
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Trident HIG1526 Is now available on Ebay. Yours for £2,400.00.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Tr...5b48ad9&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=172369570801
Also available amongst an NC Oly and 2 ex Plymouth B6s is former Badgerline Citybus D700GHY.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-D10...570801?hash=item282206ebf1:g:HIkAAOSw8w1X-rBu
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Tr...5b48ad9&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=172369570801
Also available amongst an NC Oly and 2 ex Plymouth B6s is former Badgerline Citybus D700GHY.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-D10...570801?hash=item282206ebf1:g:HIkAAOSw8w1X-rBu
There's still one B10m left here at the mo 38004 , funny really when u think there looking for O/T's this may have been a good one to start with i guess its because its a Trident
Is it the Trident that met a Bodmin bridge recently? Very quick disposal if it is!
THarris123
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It is.
Yes it is 32875 , agree quick disposal indeed.
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One of the ex Truronian Dart's Y2 EDN a.k.a 42802 has been re-registered as Y462 JAE. Not sure if Y1 EDN has had the same, I take it First won't be keeping these Dart's for long then
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One of the ex Truronian Dart's Y2 EDN a.k.a 42802 has been re-registered as Y462 JAE. Not sure if Y1 EDN has had the same, I take it First won't be keeping these Dart's for long then
42801 is withdrawn and cannibalised, awaiting collection
42802 is still on fleet
The registrations were removed to allow them to be able to be placed on two Eden Citaro Gs
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We work with the seller. It was taken to him from the incident directly.
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There's still one B10m left here at the mo 38004 , funny really when u think there looking for O/T's this may have been a good one to start with i guess its because its a Trident
The D10M that is still with us is awaiting conversion to a tree cutting vehicle.
Nothing funny at all about the disposal. We don't view Tridents as being suitable for our specific open top routes, preferring B7TLs, which we already have for conversion, the stairs are too far back and the upper deck seating capacity is too low.
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MrKnow
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that is a shame as both Dart's are goodn's, starting life with Truronian there bound to be! I shall make the most of 42802 while its still here
Thanks for clearing that up , i took it 38004 was for a Tree Lopper
makes scene to have one ! The B7TL's will looks really smart as O/T's i take it there be Fully O/T ? also see what u mean now on the seating & Stairs.
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One of the ex Truronian Dart's Y2 EDN a.k.a 42802 has been re-registered as Y462 JAE. Not sure if Y1 EDN has had the same, I take it First won't be keeping these Dart's for long then
I have no great interest in fleet numbers, so it seemed like synchronicity when I was driving behind 42802 (with reg Y2 EDN) on route 2 in Marazion last Sunday lunchtime - two hours later it was on the 17 at St Erth heading for St Ives. I saw the same bus today in Pz but didn't notice whether its reg had changed.
THarris123
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Do we know what non-DDA vehicles are left in service in Kernow now?
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Just the double deckers including Olympian's 34138, 34177, 34041, 34311, all the East Lancs Loylene bodied Trident's bar 32755, all the T***LLC registed President bodied Trident's & the 2 ALX400 bodied Volvo B7TL's 30881 & 30898
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Spotted another new arrival from BoS in Truro today, President bodied Trident 32883 OIG1797
34177 has been up at Taunton since last Saturday or earlier. Probably moved up with 38006 which is here for Special Duties, Carnivals etc.
Cheers, Mike R
THarris123
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So all the T***LLC registered President bodied Tridents are non-DDA then - I thought it was some, but not all.
Didn't someone say that 30881 and 30898 have been knocked out of service?
So none of the X reg and older East Lancs have been withdrawn yet?
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yes, all the ones that aren't HIG or OIG plated. The easy way to tell is if theres a hand rail going across the window just behind the luggage rack on the LHS.
The following Trident's aren't DDA 32808, 32819 & 32846
30881 is still in service as I seen it today on the 2, not sure about 30898 tho?
As for the East Lancs Trident's, 32713, 32715, 32751 & 32752 have all been withdrawn
THarris123
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So is 32818 in Bridgwater non-DDA too?
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32818 looks to be compliant as its been repainted and replated as OIG1788
THarris123
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So basically the non-DDA compliant vehicles which are left in Kernow/BoS are:-
32808, 32819, 32846
30881, 30898
32709/11/12/14/16/17/53/54
32935/6/47
34041,34138,34311 - what about 34162?
That's H.M.S. Seahawk to you lad A.K.A. R.N.A.S. Culdrose.
Earlier in this thread FSWOfficial has posted the T reg Tridents ARE compliant. No offence to MrKnow but I will take FSWOfficial to be correct.
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2584972&postcount=2500
From memory they had the relevant works and certification when they were converted to single door.
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So then it should be just my list above but not 32808, 32819 and 32846. I did think it strange that they would be non dda - they've just sent down a few to Hampshire from the same batch.
Exactly, I'd say search out FSW postings in this thread, I clicked on view all posts by user on FSW profile.
MrKnow has posted a lot that conflicts with FSWOfficial postings.
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90sWereBetter
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I think it may depend when the Tridents were cascaded out of London. I believe the ones that came out of the capital in 2006/2007 were not DDA'd (the early T-LLCs and the W-reg Alexanders which all left when First London lost route 7 on retender).
The rest of the T/V/W reg ones left London in 2009/2010, and I believe they were DDA'd, but don't quote me on this. I'd be surprised if they lasted much longer and made it into Olympia livery though, as they are 17 years old now.
As for the W-reg B7TLs, a large number have been DDA'd and refurbished over the last couple of years, including 30871-880 which were done up for the First takeover of Finglands in Manchester iirc. Whether any more will be done now, remains to be seen. It's hard to think these buses are now reaching the same ages of the WYPTE Atlanteans/Southampton Atlanteans/Leicester Dominators/Bristol Olympians they replaced at the turn of the century.
The rest of the T/V/W reg ones left London in 2009/2010, and I believe they were DDA'd, but don't quote me on this. I'd be surprised if they lasted much longer and made it into Olympia livery though, as they are 17 years old now.
As for the W-reg B7TLs, a large number have been DDA'd and refurbished over the last couple of years, including 30871-880 which were done up for the First takeover of Finglands in Manchester iirc. Whether any more will be done now, remains to be seen. It's hard to think these buses are now reaching the same ages of the WYPTE Atlanteans/Southampton Atlanteans/Leicester Dominators/Bristol Olympians they replaced at the turn of the century.
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TheGrandWazoo
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I don't even know if it's as straightforward as that. As seen with the ex London Marshall Darts in South Wales, you have consecutively numbered vehicles that were or weren't compliant. Also, some W regs were but some X regs weren't.
My understanding, and I may well be incorrect in this, is that it was dependant on where they were refurbished/modified on exit from London.
And yes, it is quite astounding how old these machines are now in comparison with previous times. Likewise, 22 year old Olympians still working in Cornwall....
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The VRs were older when retired in 2006.
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Coach 23009 involved in an RTA yesterday. Pic on link
http://m.westbriton.co.uk/pictures-...sh-with-jeep/story-29805105-detail/story.html
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TheGrandWazoo
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I was thinking more ancient history; there weren't many 1964 Lodekkas in 1986! That said, the West Country has always been home to some of the oldest examples with 19/20 yr old Bristol LS types in the late 1970s.
I do hope there's no lasting impact on those involved in that accident.
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You are indeed right about 32819 & 32846 both are NOT DDA & yes all the DDA ones have the two rail's one of which runs across the Window & is visible from outside .
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Not all Ex London Tridents were brought up to full speck !
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That's right. At Kernow those three Presidents are non DDA but two are staying for closed contracts. All the remaining (and diminishing) W and X reg East Lancs examples are non DDA but one is staying for a closed contract.
30881 is the only non DDA B7TL currently in use. the other two have been cannibalised.
There are still 4 Olympians on fleet, including one remaining for the Fal River contract, 1 open top in reserve, 1 closed top to go into reserve and one that will be for disposal. There is one more off fleet and awaiting disposal.
At BoS there are 3 ex Glasgow non DDA Tridents in use, and 1 Olympian on a school contract
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