First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

[Whiteway215]

South Yorkshire Forum reporting 32261 heading to Taunton from Doncaster on cascade yesterday afternoon.

 

[83G/84D]

Volvo B7TL 37058 & B9TL 37729 both out on the A2. 34137 on rail duty for the St Ives line.

 

[richw]

The Truro College routes are shown in the public timetables on the website, so they can't be closed door services.

100% closed door. There is a note somewhere on the website stating this.

 

[Lizard1324]

The timetable states that the bus runs non stop between Saveolock Kerley Downs and Truro College Bus Park.


I was only talking about the 230 this morning the not stopping was for the 251 yesterday where it left oebwith college and went by Longrock mcdonalds where kids were waiting and it just drove by

 

[Goldfish62]

100% closed door. There is a note somewhere on the website stating this.

Can you point me to it?

They also appear on First's journey planner.

They are clearly being advertised as open to the public. Not very good at all.

 

[83G/84D]

Volvo B7TL 37058 & B9TL 37729 both out on the A2. 34137 on rail duty for the St Ives line.

34137 swapped for 32027.

100% closed door. There is a note somewhere on the website stating this.

I have looked at the website and can’t see it. Not saying it isn’t the case but I’d like to know where it can be found on the website.

 

[embers25]

I couldn't find the closed service note anywhere on any of the timetables either. TfC timetables do have it although the shading indicating it is far from clear due to the poor colour choice.

 

[Yarp1]

Does anyone know why the college 200 series is not showing on bustimes as I use it as tracking to catch the bus.
It might be due to most college buses no lower showing the route e.g 230 and instead private charter but usure as last year it did still work with this

The 200 was the T3 but now just collage so only collage kids can board to keep them in a bubble so to speak. No longer a scheduled bus passenger service

 

[MB162435]

The 200 was the T3 but now just collage so only collage kids can board to keep them in a bubble so to speak. No longer a scheduled bus passenger service

Bustimes has the T3 starting 14th September, so must be a mistake if true

 

[GBM]

As I recall, prior to the lockdown, the Long Rock to Truro College then turned into one of the T3's until it was time to return to Long Rock.

 

[83G/84D]

The 200 was the T3 but now just collage so only collage kids can board to keep them in a bubble so to speak. No longer a scheduled bus passenger service

If they are all closed door / students only services why are some shown on the website and not others. No sign of the new Devon services on the website.

 

[CornwallBus]

RARE WORKING SPOTTED: 65724 (LK55 ACF) out on route PR1 today.

Nothing new there, 65724 & 5 are the preferred dupe buses for the PR1

 

[TechDan2002]

Interesting mix of vehicles on the 231 yesterday morning (08/09/20):
Dennis Trident Plaxton President 33144
Scania L94UB Wright Solar 65724
Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban 66847

66847 joined the route at Penryn to ease crowding on 33144 and went direct to college skipping Ponsanooth and Playing Place

 

[fgwrich]

Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban 66847

That sounds like another new arrival? (From Leicester) Or am I just losing track of the recent deliveries to FK?

 

[83G/84D]

That sounds like another new arrivalR? (From Leicester) Or am I just losing track of the recent deliveries to FK?

Arrived around 2 weeks ago. It was mentioned on here. From Yorkshire I believe.

 

[Accelerator59]

66847 drove past me near St. Agnes (think it was in Trevellas) yesterday around teatime saying bus full and it did look packed.

 

[Lizard1324]

Are kernow still looking for more buses had people complaining about singles being used and way over capacity, if they are still looking for deckers would they only source from first or you they buy e.g. from ensight bus

 

[richw]

Are kernow still looking for more buses had people complaining about singles being used and way over capacity, if they are still looking for deckers would they only source from first or you they buy e.g. from ensight bus

More being sourced from different places

 

[83G/84D]

I couldn't find the closed service note anywhere on any of the timetables either. TfC timetables do have it although the shading indicating it is far from clear due to the poor colour choice.

I'll contact First Kernow and ask for clarification unless someone finds anything conclusive on the website.

 

[Whiteway215]

More being sourced from different places

Only when this information is no longer confidential will you be able to inform us what these are please?
The news you give us is much appreciated.

 

[charlie1284]

For the past 3 days the 27 has been operated by an optare solo sr and 3 enviro 400 mmcs. Anyone know why a single decker has been preferred to a double decker?

 

[richw]

For the past 3 days the 27 has been operated by an optare solo sr and 3 enviro 400 mmcs. Anyone know why a single decker has been preferred to a double decker?

could be many reasons,
vehicle unavailability,
Decker needed elsewhere more importantly than a quiet diagram on 27

Nothing new there, 65724 & 5 are the preferred dupe buses for the PR1

65724 has moved to Bodmin for the 214A now. 214A goes under the low bridge at Par, and uses a high capacity single decker. Was previously run by a bendy most days

 

[Lizard1324]

For the past 3 days the 27 has been operated by an optare solo sr and 3 enviro 400 mmcs. Anyone know why a single decker has been preferred to a double decker?

Probaly becuase singles have been used on college routes that need a decker badly so they probaly used the 400mmc for a college route and the solo for the 27

 

[83G/84D]

Bicton college branded 37151 was seen in Camborne yesterday.

 

[richw]

Return to Bude.
Decker is on DSC002 bude- launceston -duchy stoke climsland College.
Single is on STA001 bude- camelford- st Austell college, it’s booked a small Dart but no dart available this morning so I got allocated the B7RLE

 

[SouthEastBuses]

One question: why is the A17, despite being an Atlantic Coaster route, not run with open top double deckers? All other A routes have them, so I'm curious to know why the A17 doesn't use open toppers despite being an Atlantic Coaster bus route.

 

[richw]

Summary of changes from 13/9/20
As expected there are some changes seeing services on T1/2 and U1/2/3/4 returning from TFC

Cornwall by Kernow - Summary of Timetable Changes from 13th September 2020
Forthcoming Timetables can be viewed here >>>

A2, A3, A5, 91 – no changes

A1: Penzance | St Buryan | Porthcurno | Land’s End

• Mondays to Saturdays – the 0858 from St Buryan to Penzance will be withdrawn
• No other changes

A4: Camborne | Gwithian | Hayle Towans | St Ives

• Revised to provide three return journeys on Mondays to Fridays only

A17: Pendeen | St Just | Penzance | Carbis Bay | St Ives

• Mondays to Saturdays – between peak periods diversions via Chy-an-Gweal in Crowlas will be reduced to hourly.
• Mondays to Saturdays – the 2152 and 2252 from St Ives to Penzance divert to serve St Ives Holiday Village. Times from St Erth station 9 mins later than previously
• Sundays – 2145 and 2245 from St Ives to Penzance divert to serve St Ives Holiday Village. Times from St Erth station 10 mins later than previously.

L1: Mullion | Helston | Truro | RCH Treliske | Truro College

• A new service for shoppers visiting Truro. Runs on Mondays to Fridays at 0930 from Mullion and 1000 from Helston from where it goes direct to Truro and then continues to the Royal Cornwall Hospital at Treliske and Truro College.
• Returns from Truro College at 1325, Treliske at 1330 and Truro bus station at 1345.

M6: Penzance – Newlyn – Mousehole

The last journeys will run 10 mins later than previously. New times:

• Mondays to Saturdays - 2240 Penzance to Mousehole and 2301 return
• Sundays – 2230 Penzance to Mousehole and 2251 return

T1/T2: Truro | Redruth | Camborne | Hayle | Penzance T1 or St Ives T2

The daytime frequency remains unchanged but please check the timetable for morning and evening changes which include:

• Mondays to Fridays - new journeys from Camborne to Truro at 0530 and Truro to Camborne at 0635
• Saturdays - journeys from Camborne to Truro at 0640 and 0710 and also from Truro to Camborne at 0750 and 0820 withdrawn
• Mondays to Saturdays - new evening journeys from Camborne to Truro at 2030, 2130 and 2230 with returns from Truro to Camborne at 2135, 2235 and 2335. These buses will replace those previously provided by Go Cornwall Bus on behalf of Transport for Cornwall.

U1/U2/U4: Falmouth | Penryn | Penryn Campus

• Mondays to Saturdays – every 15 minutes during the day and every 30 minutes in the evening with a last bus from Falmouth at 2352
• Sundays – every 30 minutes during the day. Evening buses will run every 40 minutes with a last bus from Falmouth at 2330

U1: Falmouth | Penryn | Penryn Campus | Truro

• No changes on the Penryn Campus to Truro section of route

U2: Falmouth | Penryn | Penryn Campus | Redruth

• Mondays to Saturdays – no change during the day but extra evening journeys from Falmouth to Redruth at 1922 and 2122 and also from Redruth to Falmouth at 2004 and 2204
• Sundays – no change

U3: Falmouth | Penryn Campus (direct)

• Mondays to Fridays during term – every 15 minutes from 0730 to 1900
• For journeys at other times see U1/U2/U4

U4: Falmouth | Penryn Campus | Helston | Porthleven | Marazion | Penzance

• Mondays to Saturdays – extra evening journeys at 1840, 2022 and 2222 from Falmouth to Penzance and also 1840, 2010 and 2210 from Penzance to Falmouth. These buses will replace those previously provided by Go Cornwall bus on behalf of Transport for Cornwall.
• Sundays – no change

24: Fowey | Par | St Blazey | St Austell | Mevagissey | Lost Gardens of Heligan

• Mondays to Saturdays – 0703 St Blazey to Fowey extended back to start from St Austell South Street at 0637. Also 1835 Fowey to St Blazey extended to St Austell South Street.
• Sundays – no change

27: Truro | Probus | St Austell | Boscoppa | bugle | Roche | Bodmin

• Mondays to Saturdays – 1738 and 1838 Bodmin to St Austell will each run five minutes earlier.

87: Newquay | Perranporth | St Agnes | Truro

• Mondays to Saturdays – no change
• Sundays – reduced to every two hours for the winter period

 

[Bill Badger]

Summary of changes from 13/9/20
As expected there are some changes seeing services on T1/2 and U1/2/3/4 returning from TFC

Pleased to see evening U4s back to FK but frustrated that T1s between Penzance and Redruth still with TfC meaning still can't get home by bus from Camborne or Hayle, with FK day tickets. Why leave just a couple of services with TfC on routes where FK run virtually everything else?

 

[83G/84D]

South Yorkshire Forum reporting 32261 heading to Taunton from Doncaster on cascade yesterday afternoon.

In Camborne today, Atlantic Coaster 32104 is at Volvo Truck & Bus at Victoria.

 

[Yarp1]

In Camborne today, Atlantic Coaster 32104 is at Volvo Truck & Bus at Victoria.

32104 was at volvo roach suposidly having a new engine put in