There might be a Bristol LH. The ex Harvey’s and Halifax Nimbus is not roadworthy and awaiting restoration according to the owner who I spoke to over the weekend.
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Goldfish62
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The Nimbus is indeed in the process of restoration.
LHSs 1560 and 1255 are both regular visitors to Mousehole each April at the running days, as is SUS 603. LHS1557, MB811 357 and MB709 are all less regular visitors.
So plenty available.
(For those just joining this thread I am of course not being serious and advocating this...)
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Got to be better than 'No Bus Available', speaking even as someone who probably couldn't manage the steps, so I would advocate it in extremis.The Nimbus is indeed in the process of restoration.
LHSs 1560 and 1255 are both regular visitors to Mousehole each April at the running days, as is SUS 603. LHS1557, MB811 357 and MB709 are all less regular visitors.
So plenty available.
(For those just joining this thread I am of course not being serious and advocating this...)
What could otherwise be done to get buses to Mousehole harbour? The Fire Service don't have special fire engines, presumably, or have to run their hoses from the Coastguard.
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Callum15632
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Does anyone know why the Mousehole Sprinters haven't entered service yet?
KendalKing
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Unfortunately, my planned holiday in Penzance back in April (for the running day), had to be cancelled. Going to try to make it, next year.The Nimbus is indeed in the process of restoration.
LHSs 1560 and 1255 are both regular visitors to Mousehole each April at the running days, as is SUS 603. LHS1557, MB811 357 and MB709 are all less regular visitors.
So plenty available.
(For those just joining this thread I am of course not being serious and advocating this...)
henryb
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Anyone know what vehicles are actually running on the Dartmoor Explorer right now?
Truronian Coaches have put out on Facebook that they are expecting some new additions to the fleet.
More soon.
Definitely not 53826 which has been withdrawn after an argument with a wall at Mousehole so a ticket machine swap. Other than that no idea, sorry!
Thanks I was wondering.
53251 working from the Plymouth end when it runs.
53251 ran this morning and 5 people left Plymouth 16 was reached at Yelverton until Two Bridges. 4 transfering at Moretonhampstead with 14 coming off the Exeter bus, which was 47414.
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Seen that. Anyone know if they're for Cornwall or Somerset, or both?
Two of the Sprinters are branded at Camborne. From photos I have received it’s just a little underwhelming to be honest with small Mousehole stickers applied along with equally small Cornwall by Kernow /Transport for Cornwall stickers and fleet numbers in white.
At least they look ready but I haven’t heard when they will enter service.
At least they look ready but I haven’t heard when they will enter service.
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I shall miss the pink and grey livery. Despite the pink fading very quickly it was a recognisable brand.
Yes agree with you. I went to the launch event at Heartlands when it was unveiled along with the generic green and Atlantic Coaster ‘56’.
Truronian have won a contract with a tour operator. They’re also advertising for tour drivers to go with the new contract.
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Has the last one disappeared now? I bumped into my 'last local in Mousehole' acquaintance this afternoon and she just automatically walks up to the Coastguard now. She claims everyone hates the Promenade routeing, bar the tourists of course.
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Seems like the 1600 from Exeter isn’t running today,
fairly good loadings though
Broke down in Exeter. Once rectified it looks to have ran back to Plymouth very late with passengers in service via a38. Hopefully nobody waiting on the moors for it, potentially stranded
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Looks like it. Just 53701 (green) left on the road now although that disappeared during yesterday morning so presumably broken down yet again.
The routing via the Prom is a waste of time, but I understand why it's been done. It's the only way to use 3 buses to provide a 4bph service, which is needed with the lower capacity Sprinters.
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What's the betting that it'll have to return to a 3 bph one routeing service? Actually, what is the best theoretical service with 3 buses, regardless of clockface timings? 17/18 minute interval? I'd back that, given my acquaintance was telling me of 2 minutes between buses at the Newlyn/Mousehole end on occasion, followed by a long gap. The current clockface timings are fiction anyway.
With the tight running times I assume it’s a case of once late they just drive the Route and never catch up to timetable?
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I've no insider information, but what you assume sounds reasonable to me.
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Yes. That's exactly what happens and was entirely predictable.
If everything ran the same route it would allow a late running journey to be curtailed in order to get back on time, but doing so with the current service pattern risks large waits for some passengers.
Only way to mitigate is to have a 4th spare bus at Penzance bus station to slot into service with a relief driver, with the late runner then becoming the spare. That would require a degree of proactive service control though.
A few months ago I waited 45 min then two buses arrived at Mousehole at once. The third bus had broken down at Newlyn and the other two were running together.
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This works particularly well when the drivers are due to change over. New driver takes spare bus on time. This happens regularly at Stagecoach in Plymouth.
53863 working the Dart today
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Absolutely.
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Sitting in my car at West Cornwall Hospital, Penzance and saw three buses in one minute going to the bus station, in order a 17, a 19 and a 16 (the latter run by Go Cornwall). This struck me as a bad example of scheduling, given these are the three regular routes in the area and another bus, a 17. would not arrive for another half hour before the procession was repeated in yet another half hour. Given the Tin Coaster (ex-18) has been withdrawn from the immediate area, but the 17 and 19 are both run by First, one asks 'is this so unavoidable?' I'm always seeing it in the daytime with these two routes, so nothing's running early or late there. Of course, when the 17 goes to every 45 minutes, at least every other bus won't coincide, but that's making the most of a bad situation. i might even have a go at writing my first bus schedule in over fifty years if I was given sufficient background information.
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Agreed.