It was still out on the 44 at 8pm last night, and I've also just realised it's an ex Weston machine.
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It was still out on the 44 at 8pm last night, and I've also just realised it's an ex Weston machine.
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TheGrandWazoo
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So what's left of the Marshalls now?
41162 @ HE, 41490/41686 @ LH, 41332/4/5 @ WS and 41687 @ WM?
Remember seeing Lances, B10LEs and B7RLEs on the 44/5 and even the odd step floor and LF Pointer Darts but never a Marshall!
THarris123
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Nearly right - 41332 never went to Wells. They only have 41334/5. Weston has no Marshalls as far as I'm assuming. 41687 is (I think) at MH.
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Speaking to a Wells driver this evening...
126 is going back to Wells in March.
161 is being withdrawn to Frome on Saturdays.
There was a rumour going around that 376 would be every 20 mins, but seems it's not true.
Tried to get out of him whether they would end up with the W Reg B10s, but he didn't really know.
I suppose it does make sense to bring 126 back to Wells, but I'm not really in favour of it. As has been mentioned on here numerous times, demand is more at the Weston end.
We'll see how they work it. It will be very interesting nonetheless.
I wonder what Weston will be doing instead of 126. Perhaps something involving Felton, like what was mentioned on North Somerset Council website (i.e. more possible trips from Felton)? Maybe even something involving Chew Valley??
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TheGrandWazoo
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Thanks for that on the Marshalls. I thought all 4 of the V regs went and that 41333 was almost immediately withdrawn. And yeah, 41687 did move to MH last month.
The 161 is a casualty of the Somerset CC cuts that'll see some routes like the 102 disappear (if that proposal is carried out).
It might make more sense for the 126 to be WS as I'm sure the first journey into Weston is busier than the first into Wells but as you say, what's with WM? Lose the X6, one bus less from the A2/121 change, and then the 126 if that comes to pass. Bit ominous though probably nothing
Thanks for that on the Marshalls. I thought all 4 of the V regs went and that 41333 was almost immediately withdrawn. And yeah, 41687 did move to MH last month.
The 161 is a casualty of the Somerset CC cuts that'll see some routes like the 102 disappear (if that proposal is carried out).
It might make more sense for the 126 to be WS as I'm sure the first journey into Weston is busier than the first into Wells but as you say, what's with WM? Lose the X6, one bus less from the A2/121 change, and then the 126 if that comes to pass. Bit ominous though probably nothing
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matt_splat
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intresting changes a every 20 min 376 with the 379 as well would be a intresting change i'd expect the 376 will drop street which would free up busses
the 161 is losing funding for Saturdays from Shepton to Frome
the 161 is losing funding for Saturdays from Shepton to Frome
Private Baxter
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Kind of always knew the 126 would one day go back, it will have been three years in April. Depot changes never last more than a few years. The 332 and 354 are other examples. Just hope Weston have something to replace it with as they've lost an awful lot lately.
Good to see WS expanding slightly, and I expect they will get the two S reg B10s they lost in 2012 (66206/7) which still work the 126, along with something else.
Personally can't see the 376 going every 20 mins just yet, but we'll see I guess. Very interesting potential changes anyway.
Good to see WS expanding slightly, and I expect they will get the two S reg B10s they lost in 2012 (66206/7) which still work the 126, along with something else.
Personally can't see the 376 going every 20 mins just yet, but we'll see I guess. Very interesting potential changes anyway.
Robertj21a
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I think it is interpreted as a legal requirement under the DDA regulations where suitable destination displays are specified. Of course non-DDA vehicles (roughly those before Y-reg) are not legally required to have such equipment. In any event, there is virtually no policing of such matters, except perhaps when the vehicle has to go through its regular MOT.
First 48211 in service in Plymouth this afternoon on the 6. It is still accepting Bristol Pounds offering free Wi-fi and offering 30% off on all student fares.
It is also offering some new fangled swipe card which will be no good in Plymouth as we are still waiting for the new ticket machines that are now in use in all other parts of the country.
It is also offering some new fangled swipe card which will be no good in Plymouth as we are still waiting for the new ticket machines that are now in use in all other parts of the country.
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Meanwhile 60913 is now in Bath. Saw it this afternoon sparkling in the sun, as though it had just had a repaint. Except of course it is in old livery.
Robertj21a
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69459 is reported in Leicester - 33565 should now be in Bristol.
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Sorry my mistake. It was the X6 I meant.
I did get another journey on an Enviro 400 the other day. I got one on the 76 to Cribbs Causeway one morning. I am getting the 76 to work now as the particular 75 at that time of the morning(before 7am!) has become increasingly unreliable, often turning up 5 to 10 minute or so late. Don't know the reasons why it can be that late at that time of the day. Anyway glad to have got a ride on an Enviro 400 on the 76 on that day. And coming back home that day, I had just missed an Enviro 400 on the 75 by about 2 minutes!! So that was a bit of a bit of a bugger! But at least I got an Enviro 400 on the outbound journey. However that particular working on that Northbound 76 the rest of the week has been Gemini's!
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ValleyLines142
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Traffic in and out of Parkway is horrendous this morning.
Usual suspects on routes (47563 on the 18, 37340/37632/37771 on the 73, 42906 on the 319).
66936 is on the first X5 to UWE, think this one is booked a B7RLE. Other three diagrams are Enviro 400s.
Heading into town later so will look out for various vehicles!
Usual suspects on routes (47563 on the 18, 37340/37632/37771 on the 73, 42906 on the 319).
66936 is on the first X5 to UWE, think this one is booked a B7RLE. Other three diagrams are Enviro 400s.
Heading into town later so will look out for various vehicles!
Have the Somerset county council cuts -particularly the withdrawel of all saturday buses around shepton mallet- been approved then?
The changes to the A2 and 121 have resulted in one less bus between the two services and still lots of funding for the airport to nailsea link. I would be surprised if first decided to go back in to anything in that raea without funding.
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69456 is in Leicester.
ValleyLines142
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69455 still in Bristol.
Interesting observations include 47441 on the 21, 42957 on the 51 and 33565 on the 70!
One of the 3 remaining B6LE's (whatever 48212 etc is) was on the 90
Interesting observations include 47441 on the 21, 42957 on the 51 and 33565 on the 70!
One of the 3 remaining B6LE's (whatever 48212 etc is) was on the 90
47558 was working on the 42 this evening, not far behind was a BH Streetlite OOS and full up heading into Bristol, assume this was a late 37 as the next was 15 min behind on time.
ValleyLines142
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Wow, interesting stuff!
63068 was on the 37 heading towards Bath at Penn Street at about 4.30pm.
THarris123
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More news from Wells...
Speaking to another driver this evening - 126 is definitely going to Wells in March. I believe he also mentioned that the X75 is going to Bridgwater - but not too sure as I couldn't quite hear through the door. I'm going to try and find out a bit more - what Weston are getting in return for the 126 and whether the 376 is changing.
Speaking to another driver this evening - 126 is definitely going to Wells in March. I believe he also mentioned that the X75 is going to Bridgwater - but not too sure as I couldn't quite hear through the door. I'm going to try and find out a bit more - what Weston are getting in return for the 126 and whether the 376 is changing.
Sounds very intresting and exciting changes in March...
TheGrandWazoo
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Interesting indeed. Especially with WM and what might happen there. However, losing the X75/375 will mean a decrease in WS work overall?
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I was rather hoping that the 126 would be extra work for Wells, but never mind. These changes might have more to do with the loss of the 102. I expect it's just the X75 going, whilst the 375 will stay at Wells.
freetoview33
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Surely the X75 and maybe 375 would become BoS if it goes to Bridgwater?
TheGrandWazoo
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I think that's the inference but I can't see the X75 going and not the 375. Tbh, I can't fathom why they'd want to transfer those routes as a fair chunk of morning trade is Bridgwater College traffic from the Wells/Street end so a fair bit of dead mileage. Then again, they do it for the 29....
freetoview33
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I think it would just be to compete better with Webberbus
TheGrandWazoo
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It really shouldn't make any difference but take your point. Like I say, can't see them transferring one but not the other. However, still got the 377 and 126 run by First against WB.
Private Baxter
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The X75 was only really introduced in response to WB route 37, and I suppose BoS is the more natural competitor so this move makes sense really. I can't really say whether both routes would move, but if so that would be a PVR drop of 5! (Though that's before the 126 is accounted for). If the 375 does go as well, maybe then the rumours about the increased 376 is true.
Funnily enough, I could see BoS taking the 375 but NOT the X75!
Funnily enough, I could see BoS taking the 375 but NOT the X75!
TheGrandWazoo
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I don't know if BoS are the natural competitor though I can see some logic. The X75/375 doesn't duplicate any other BoS services except within Bridgwater (save the 102 positioning runs and northern bit of the 29). However, does make the WS to Street corridor more confusing.
I'd like to see the 376 every 20 minutes to see if it could prosper further but not losing some of its Street journeys.
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freetoview33
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What about this
376: Bristol - Wells every 20 mins (With one an hour carrying on to Street)
29: Taunton - Street - Wells 60 mins (BOS)
75: Bridgwater - Street - Bridgwater 60 mins (BOS) (Replacing X75)
75A: Bridgwater - Street - Bridgwater 120 mins (BOS) (Replacing 375)
77: Yeovil - Street - Bridgwater 60 mins (BOS) (Replacing 377)
That would still provide Bristol with a direct link to Street. 4.5bph Wells - Street.
Transfer Yeovil to BoS then as someone mentioned they might do something along the lines of stagecoach 99 Taunton - Yeovil. Then maybe something to simplify the 57/58/58A.
And an idea I would still like if the 375/377 went to BoS and Yeovil to BoS is for BoS to run a route similar to South West Coaches 1 and then take over part of the 161.
Yeovil - Castle Cary - Shepton Mallet - Wells (Hourly) BoS
Wells - Shepton Mallet - Frome (120mins +) FSA
Would seem like a good expansion and a lot more work for Yeovil. Yes okay less work for Wells but I think if Yeovil is to have a future it needs to go to BoS and add some more routes.
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Another thing that wouldn't surprise me (If Yeovil went to BoS) is at somepoint over the next year or so is if the Dorset opps (Weymouth/Dorchester/Bridport) went to FDC and then some more new services. Like Taunton - Honiton/Seaton, Yeovil - Bridport (Again). Yeovil - Dorchester/Weymouth) Maybe extending the odd 30 from Axminster to Lyme Regis. And dare I even suggest something along the lines of Stagecoaches 4 into Exeter to compliment the X53!
Okay I very much doubt all of this will happen but there is certainly space in current depots for this, and I think Alex could do a good job of it. And one of the things First need to do is make good use of the current resources!
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