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It's University of Bath Open Days today and tomorrow 15/16 June. Bendis 10174/77/79 (plus probably others) transporting would-be students and parents between city centre and the uni. Good to see 32007 also helping out as it's no longer required to run on the U2.

Remarkable sight this morning was 66992 on a 173. Must be a sudden urgent need for dual door buses going through Binegar!!!???. Note to THarris. Would Wells like to keep this one and BH can have 32283 Back???!!!
 
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32283 is still out on 376s today, noted heading to Street at Temple Meads. Also at Temple Meads both 32098/35143 in 90 livery working Uni shuttles, as well as Weymouth Trident 32809.

For the gricers Bristol VRs AHW201W, VDV134S and AFJ766T are also being used!
 
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32701 also in use as is 35140 and 90 branded 32084/93

There been a few green B7TLs and another few Routemasters out this afternoon as well. One of the VRs even managed to set a car alarm off when it set off next to it!

I've not seen the Cribbs P&R but I've heard the electric E400s are on it which would explain their absense from the 72 today.

32855 and 33002 from Weymouth also noted out on UoB work this afternoon.
 
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There been a few green B7TLs and another few Routemasters out this afternoon as well. One of the VRs even managed to set a car alarm off when it set off next to it!

I've not seen the Cribbs P&R but I've heard the electric E400s are on it which would explain their absense from the 72 today.

32855 and 33002 from Weymouth also noted out on UoB work this afternoon.

Seen those other two Tridents and yes, the electric e400s have been on UoB work.
 

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Seen those other two Tridents and yes, the electric e400s have been on UoB work.

I've just seen an electric E400 back on the 72 heading across the centre.

There's a lot of bunching on the 1 this evening with the terrible traffic from earlier today around the triangle. Some short workings to Broadmead, the Centre and Blackboy Hill Top noted going northbound.
 
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I saw 2 of the 48/48A/49 branded Enviro400 MMCs on the uni open day shuttles in Bristol this afternoon as well as a B7RLE / Wright on Service 4.

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Is there any pattern to which of the services on the 20 are operated by the open tops?

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Is there any pattern to which of the services on the 20 are operated by the open tops?

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From Burnham - 9.20, 10.50, 11.50, 13.20, 14.20, 15.50, 16.50, 18.18, 19.08
From Weston - 9.35, 10.35, 12.05, 13.05, 14.35, 15.35, 17.05, 18.05

On Sundays-
From Weston - 9.05, 10.05, 12.05, 13.05, 15.05, 16.05, 18.05
From Burnham - 10.20, 11.20, 13.20, 14.20, 16.20, 17.20, 19.08
 

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From Burnham - 9.20, 10.50, 11.50, 13.20, 14.20, 15.50, 16.50, 18.18, 19.08
From Weston - 9.35, 10.35, 12.05, 13.05, 14.35, 15.35, 17.05, 18.05

On Sundays-
From Weston - 9.05, 10.05, 12.05, 13.05, 15.05, 16.05, 18.05
From Burnham - 10.20, 11.20, 13.20, 14.20, 16.20, 17.20, 19.08
Thank you very much
 

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Steve White tells us remaining withdrawn vehicles (41162 41399 41420/3 42709/54 66105) have gone for scrap so presumably that clears Muller Road of FWE stuff.

I expect some immortal Excels might still be there though!
 

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Steve White tells us remaining withdrawn vehicles (41162 41399 41420/3 42709/54 66105) have gone for scrap so presumably that clears Muller Road of FWE stuff.

I expect some immortal Excels might still be there though!

theres a picture on Facebook of at least 1 Excel being removed from there so there cant be much left in there now.
 

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theres a picture on Facebook of at least 1 Excel being removed from there so there cant be much left in there now.
I went past there on the 70 this morning and you're right, not much there at all. Three buses from what I could see although couldn't really tell what they were.
 

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How is everyone finding the buses in the heat? Any with the heating on or hot water in the radiators?

I caught a Streetlite on the 2 in Bristol yesterday. My tip would be to stand or sit right by the driver's cab as you get wafts of their air conditioning seeping out which is quite pleasant.
 

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How is everyone finding the buses in the heat? Any with the heating on or hot water in the radiators?

I caught a Streetlite on the 2 in Bristol yesterday. My tip would be to stand or sit right by the driver's cab as you get wafts of their air conditioning seeping out which is quite pleasant.

Streetlites are notoriously hot anyway, which doesn't help matters.

Times like this where we need more open toppers!

Last year had a stifling hot Gemini on the 42 to Kingswood. Leather seats are not fun!
 

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Streetlites are notoriously hot anyway, which doesn't help matters.

Times like this where we need more open toppers!

Last year had a stifling hot Gemini on the 42 to Kingswood. Leather seats are not fun!

Agreed leather seats are horrible when it's hot, much prefer moquette.

It seems all recent single deckers (except Darts and Enviro 200s) get oddly hot. Maybe something to do with how the ventilation system is configured by Wright or used by operators.


Separately, I am seeing posts on Twitter that First is confirmed as a MetroBus operator. Watch this space..
 

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Separately, I am seeing posts on Twitter that First is confirmed as a MetroBus operator. Watch this space..

They'll be running the AVTM section of the Metrobus network according to B247.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/first-run-part-metrobus-service/

First Bristol have been confirmed as the first operator to run part of Bristol’s MetroBus service.

The company will start running the MetroBus route from Ashton Vale to Temple Meads as soon as infrastructure works are completed and roadside facilities are installed.

All MetroBus passengers will have to buy their tickets before they board the bus, with no tickets able to be purchased on board, an initiative that First bosses hope will result in noticeably faster journeys.

First Bristol managing director James Freeman said: “MetroBus marks the start of an exciting new era for public transport in and around Bristol, with even lower-emission vehicles, faster boarding and dedicated sections of priority highway.”

Bristol deputy mayor Asher Craig added: “I am very much looking forward to MetroBus services starting that will benefit from the segregation and bus priority measures.

“These measures and new smart ticketing will generate a noticeable uplift of quality and reliability to the public transport network.”
 

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Just replacing the 903 they already operate, no major change

Biggest change will be off-bus ticketing, which I definitely favour. Presumably tickets will be available from machines, which I would be imagine will be card / contactless only to prevent theft, or via mobile.

I wonder what vehicles will be used?
 

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Biggest change will be off-bus ticketing, which I definitely favour. Presumably tickets will be available from machines, which I would be imagine will be card / contactless only to prevent theft, or via mobile.

I wonder what vehicles will be used?

Ticket machines as per the Cambs Busway then?

The idea was for single deck, dual door buses but wonder if this will be amended. FWIW, it's the bit of Metrobus that I find most interesting and will look forward to experiencing
 

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Biggest change will be off-bus ticketing, which I definitely favour. Presumably tickets will be available from machines, which I would be imagine will be card / contactless only to prevent theft, or via mobile.

I wonder what vehicles will be used?

This includes the guided bus section which will restrict the choice. I don't know if you can easily retrofit guide wheels because of the structural issues so, I assume, these will be new.
 

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http://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2017/20-06-17b.aspx

First Bristol will be an operator for MetroBus, councils confirm

20 Jun 2017

Bristol First Bus MetroBusThe first bus operator to start running part of the MetroBus service is First Bristol, the joint Bristol, South Gloucestershire and North Somerset MetroBus team confirms. First Bristol will start running the MetroBus route from Ashton Vale to Temple Meads as soon as infrastructure works are completed and roadside facilities are installed.

Progress on the first MetroBus route to open is going well. The bus guideway with its associated cycle and pedestrian track is well under construction, the skew bridge that guides MetroBus over the Bristol to Portishead railway line and under the elevated section of the A370 is nearly complete. In addition the £3.8million refurbishment of Ashton Avenue Bridge is finished and it is now open to pedestrians and cyclists, and the second bridge at Bathurst Basin that doubles the road space available to all vehicles and provides new space for cyclists and pedestrians is also progressing well.

Cllr Colin Hunt, Cabinet Member for Planning, Transportation and the Strategic Environment at South Gloucestershire Council said: “I am delighted to welcome First Bus as the operator of our first MetroBus service, with their support for the new off bus ticketing system alongside their investment in brand new, high quality, low emission vehicles together we’ll be setting a new high standard for bus travel in the area”

James Freeman, Managing Director of First Bristol said: “MetroBus marks the start of an exciting new era for public transport in and around Bristol, with even lower-emission vehicles, faster boarding and dedicated sections of priority highway. It will be an entirely new way of travelling with one of the main features that the public will notice being that MetroBus only offers off-bus ticketing, which means that customers will buy their tickets before they board the vehicle which will result in a noticeably faster journey.”

Cllr Asher Craig, Deputy Mayor with responsibility for Public Transport at Bristol City Council added: “I am very much looking forward to MetroBus services starting that will benefit from the segregation and bus priority measures. These measures and new smart ticketing will generate a noticeable uplift of quality and reliability to the public transport network.”

Cllr Elfan Ap Rees, Deputy Leader at North Somerset Council and Executive Member for Strategic Planning, Highways and Transport added: “MetroBus is opening up new public transport corridors that also benefit general traffic flow so it’s a win-win situation for all. This is great news for our region’s economy and will really help to tackle congestion.”

Buses for the first route to open are on order and are on track to arrive well before services start, allowing sufficient time for extensive vehicle testing and training to familiarise drivers with the route and the use of guidewheels on the busway. This also includes training for Bristol Airport Flyer drivers who will be using the busway with a new fleet of vehicles providing prompt and reliable journey times between the city of Bristol and the Airport. The Airport also intends to maintain transport links with Bedminster to ensure continued access for staff and passengers living along the current route.

How MetroBus services will operate - how the Quality Partnership Scheme works.

The councils are not contracting with or paying bus operators to run MetroBus services. The operators are commercial companies running commercial services and they will take the business risk. MetroBus is a scheme open to any operator at any time, provided they meet the requirements of the Quality Partnership Scheme and associated Voluntary Partnership Agreement.

Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire councils and the Department for Transport have funded the improvements to the network and put in place new MetroBus only facilities, such as the busway from Long Ashton Park and Ride and the new bus-only junction on and off the M32, segregated routes, separate junctions, new bus lanes, improvements at junctions, 92 new bus stops all of which will have interactive information points which will provide a range of tickets. Together with twin sets of doors, the fully off-bus ticket system will allow MetroBus to provide a reliable, predictable service minimising the time spent at stops to benefit journey times.

Some of these facilities are only available to MetroBus operators that agree to the terms of a sub agreement (known as a Voluntary Partnership Agreement) to the Quality Partnership Scheme (QPS). Others, such as the new layout in the city centre, provide journey time reliability for the benefit of all buses in the city, as well as providing additional road space for buses and cyclists and improved journey time reliability for all traffic.

The QPS sets out the minimum standards MetroBus operators must meet, including vehicle quality, vehicle emissions, branding, maximum fares, minimum service frequencies and how often the buses are cleaned. The full QPS will be published on the travelwest.info website.

The Voluntary Partnership Agreement (VPA) confirms the services that an operator will provide and sets the framework for the monitoring of both services and the facilities. Under the VPA, the MetroBus operator is responsible for the vehicles and the running of the bus services. The Councils are responsible for the MetroBus road network, roadside infrastructure and facilities including bus shelters and interactive information points, online MetroBus sales and information channels.

Regular meetings of operators and the councils at the MetroBus Performance Group will monitor the services and facilities to ensure standards on both sides are maintained as agreed in the VPA and QPS. A jointly agreed MetroBus Performance Report will also be published on the travelwest.info website.
 

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How is everyone finding the buses in the heat? Any with the heating on or hot water in the radiators?

I caught a Streetlite on the 2 in Bristol yesterday. My tip would be to stand or sit right by the driver's cab as you get wafts of their air conditioning seeping out which is quite pleasant.

Was fine on the Somerset Coaster Open Topper, very cool in the main road run :lol::p
 

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