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Flight Tracking Services - Interesting Observations

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The arriving Atlantic storm is helping aircraft across the pond. Filtering aircraft by speed shows a few travelling in excess of 650 kts - 750mph. The 800 knots for a TAP A321 is an anomaly!

I feel some sympathy for passenger and crew on the two Ryanair flights today (STN-EDI and LUT-DUB) that ended up right back where they started from. Whether Ryanair did the right thing by not cancelling the flights to begin with..
 
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I'm not sure if this would be visible from the ground at 60,000 ft even on a clear day, but it's up there!

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United substituted a 757 for the usual 767 on UA934, landing at Heathrow a short while ago...

Should depart again at 08.00 tomorrow morning ( 6th April ) as UA883 if anyone wants to try to grab a photo of this rarity...

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Just saw a 747 flying fairly low (7,000 ft) over my house which was quite unusual. Had a look on Flightradar to see it was a Singapore Cargo en route from Sharjah in the Dubai urban area, to Heathrow.

What I found quite intriguing was the convoluted route it took through the Middle East, adding over 2 and a half hours to the direct route normally taken by passenger planes from Dubai.
 

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Just saw a 747 flying fairly low (7,000 ft) over my house which was quite unusual. Had a look on Flightradar to see it was a Singapore Cargo en route from Sharjah in the Dubai urban area, to Heathrow.

What I found quite intriguing was the convoluted route it took through the Middle East, adding over 2 and a half hours to the direct route normally taken by passenger planes from Dubai.

That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!
 

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That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!
Or it could be a more mundane flight planning issue. Airspace in and around the Gulf is pretty busy and a last minute flight plan submission possibly couldn't get slotted on any usual routing. Given the regional tensions it doesn't take much to force an unusual routing.
 

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Looks like another Singapore Airlines Cargo flight with the same origin and destination took a very similar routing last week.
 
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That path is to avoid Iranian airspace, and (it seems) Afghani airspace too, albeit the route has cut over the NE corner of Afghanistan once north of Kabul. I wonder if there was something on board the owners didn’t want any risk of the Iranians finding out about. However, odd that it didn’t fly over Saudi either!

Flights from the Gulf airports (UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain etc etc), destined for Europe, usually fly up the Gulf, overfly Kuwait and Iraq, before entering Turkish airspace.
They don't usually overfly Iran, unless heading for Russia, or on Polar routes to North America.

This particular routing looks very odd, but looking at the FR24 playback, it has followed this route every Thursday since the beginning of April.
In March it also followed the same routing, but departing much earlier in the day.
It's a bit odd, as the usual alternative route from the Gulf to Europe, is via Saudi and Egyptian airspace.

There are certain cargo's that can cause a problem when it comes to overflying rights.
The most common issue that can limit access, is "Hazardous Cargo", which could include various things like munitions, Nuclear materials, high risk chemicals etc.
Certain military flights, or flights operated by civil operators on charter to military customers, require diplomatic clearance and this is sometimes a problem.
However, this just seems to be a regular scheduled cargo service, rather than a special one off, operating under a limitation of some sort.

It seems quite improbable that clearance to overfly Iraq or Kuwait would be an issue for Singapore Cargo, even if carrying such an unusual load.
As it's a regular routing, there has to be some regulatory reason limiting a more direct and economical flight plan?


[EDIT 26/04/25

SIA7934 is taking the same, extended routing today.
Departed Sharjah 0831 UTC

This routing appears to add approx. 3hrs 20 mins to the flying time.
That extra cost, especially as it's a regularly flown routing, must be considerable, so there must be a very valid reason for it? ]




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