Does anyone know when 549 was completed please?There are 18 class 720’s at Ilford
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Not seen in passenger service yet are
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These are driver training and test trips units
550 and 556 have been paired up all week on driver training based at Harwich yardThere are 18 class 720’s at Ilford
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Not seen in passenger service yet are
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These are driver training and test trips units
New trains for Cambridge to London route a step closer as driver training starts
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Thursday 25 February 2021, 3:08pmThe new commuter trains are already operating on routes in EssexCredit: Greater Anglia
Greater Anglia has begun training its drivers to operate the new trains that will be used on its route from Cambridge to London Liverpool Street.
The entire fleet on the route, which goes via Bishop's Stortford and Harlow, will be replaced over the course of this year.
Around 250 drivers need to be trained on the five-carriage units; most have already spent time in a simulator getting used to the controls, and the next stage of training will focus on how the trains handle in reality as well as emergency situations.
Andrew Goodrum, Greater Anglia’s business readiness director, said: "The start of training for our driving instructor colleagues who work on the west Anglia route is the next stage in our new trains introduction programme.
"Feedback from our instructors has been overwhelmingly positive - they see these new trains as a huge step-up and are proud to be playing a key role in getting them into passenger service."
The electric units have already been introduced on routes to Southend, Braintree and Southminster in Essex.
Eventually, the 133 sets will operate all of Greater Anglia's commuter services into London from Essex, Suffolk and Cambridgeshire.
I expect a large amount of the ones built so far are stored at Worksop with a few at Old Dalby.There are 18 class 720’s at Ilford
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Not seen in passenger service yet are
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These are driver training and test trips units
How are the infrastructure works on GEML and WAML progressing. I suspect platform lengthening , depot rejigging, stabling siding alterations needed?
Kings Lynn has been done as well I recall, but I thought the problems in the Lea Valley with level crossings and signal sighting meant SDO doesn't help.Wickford is in progress, Manningtree fits a 5 car so little or nothing required there.
On the GE the SDO means platform extensions aren’t required.
That covers stations.. What about depots and stabling?The requirement per the 2016 Franchise Agreement is below. Of course, like almost all the commitments in the Franchise Agreement, this has not been delivered. But now GA are not having any 10 car units, query whether the platform extensions are needed, maybe 5 cars max will be enough for a while
105. Infrastructure upgrades
105.1 By no later than 1 May 2019, the Franchisee shall make all necessary changes to the infrastructure of the Stations (including relevant associated infrastructure surrounding such Stations) in order to accommodate the Passenger Services as set out in TSR2 and the Franchhisee shall incur a minimum expenditure of [REDACTED120] in doing so.
105.2 Pursuant to paragraph 105.1 such changes to the infrastructure shall include such infrastructure works at each of Hertford East, Wickford, Manningtree, Kings Lynn, Elsenham, Ware, St Margarets and Enfield Lock Stations as are necessary to enable any Passenger Services comprised of 10 rolling stock vehicles to call at such Stations by no later than 1 September 2018
KL only 8 car not 10 car 720 I thinkKings Lynn has been done as well I recall, but I thought the problems in the Lea Valley with level crossings and signal sighting meant SDO doesn't help.
Subject to confirmation and based on a sighting report seen elsewhere, 720549 + 720551 were moved away as 5Q16 10+16 Ilford to Wembley on 15 February. If so, then only 16 units at Ilford. There's still a long way to go!There are 18 class 720’s at Ilford
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Not seen in passenger service yet are
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These are driver training and test trips units
KL only 8 car not 10 car 720 I think
yes Elsenham,Enfield Lock, St Margarets and Ware, if stop at signal rear of train blocks crossings.
Hert East, signals and crossover need to be moved, with associated work on overheads. Took them ages to get planning permission, granted last year, but dont know if they are actually planning to do the work
The 07:29 southbound departure from Ely is 8 cars (or at least it was pre-Covid, I haven't used it for ages now). I found it interesting that it didn't have a Waterbeach stop added following the platform lengthening there, which hinted to me that they're ultimately planning to use 10-car 720's.Though current GA services north of Ely are 4 car max anyway, splitting/joining at Cambridge as necessary. So King's Lynn should not see more than 5 cars.
There is no issue with the signals/crossing at Elsenham, a 10 car can fit in clear both directions.KL only 8 car not 10 car 720 I think
yes Elsenham,Enfield Lock, St Margarets and Ware, if stop at signal rear of train blocks crossings.
Hert East, signals and crossover need to be moved, with associated work on overheads. Took them ages to get planning permission, granted last year, but dont know if they are actually planning to do the work
There is no issue with the signals/crossing at Elsenham, a 10 car can fit in clear both directions.
fair enough, perhaps the signal has been moved, thought it used to be at end of platform, but could be wrong about thatThe stop boards are off the end of the platform, I.e. the rear doors open under SDO, with the front coaches "overshooting".
Shelford? The platforms as far as I know are only long enough for 8x20m, and on the Down therefore a 10x23m will foul the crossing?
Shelford down direction will be front-off ASDO for 10 cars, the same at all other short platforms with a crossing behind.Shelford? The platforms as far as I know are only long enough for 8x20m, and on the Down therefore a 10x23m will foul the crossing?
No signal moves at Elsenham at all, they are already far enough off the end of the platforms.fair enough, perhaps the signal has been moved, thought it used to be at end of platform, but could be wrong about that
I wonder how they might do this, the bridge over HS1 and Startford Intl isn't that far at all off the country end of 11&12 at Stratford. Must be a headacheStratford platform 11 country end signal move + platform extension.
I think a bigger concern is actually the neutral section about 100m off the end of the current platform.I wonder how they might do this, the bridge over HS1 and Startford Intl isn't that far at all off the country end of 11&12 at Stratford. Must be a headache
Aye that too.I think a bigger concern is actually the neutral section about 100m off the end of the current platform.
Doubt the paths would exist given LO frequency plus freight.Aye that too.
Would be a big job to lengthen those platforms. Maybe 10 cars could stop with rear coaches off the platform and then go round high meads to return in the down direction? If high meads is even cleared for passenger trains.
agreedDoubt the paths would exist given LO frequency plus freight.
I don't think they are bothered in doing it yet. as far as i know, the line will not start work until the Kings Cross/ECML upgrade works are done.what about Hertford East line, anyone know if they are going to do work so 10 cars can go there?