GWR Waterloo and Euston

[danbarjon]

GWR will be running some Reading to Euston services next week for tests.

Edit: Upon further inspection I can't find them on RTT but apparently their headcodes are 3Q80 - 3Q83 running Reading to Euston according to a user on another thread on here.

 

[MacT]

GWR will be running some Reading to Euston services next week for tests.

Edit: Upon further inspection I can't find them on RTT but apparently their headcodes are 3Q80 - 3Q83 running Reading to Euston according to a user on another thread on here.

A quick search on RTT has sourced these paths:

Realtime Trains | 3Q82 1230 Reading to London Euston | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q82 1230 departure from Reading to London Euston on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 3Q83 1409 London Euston to Reading | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q83 1409 departure from London Euston to Reading on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[danbarjon]

A quick search on RTT has sourced these paths:

Realtime Trains | 3Q82 1230 Reading to London Euston | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q82 1230 departure from Reading to London Euston on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 3Q83 1409 London Euston to Reading | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q83 1409 departure from London Euston to Reading on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Thanks, I couldn't find them for some reason.

 

[Boodiggy]

GWR will be running some Reading to Euston services next week for tests.

Edit: Upon further inspection I can't find them on RTT but apparently their headcodes are 3Q80 - 3Q83 running Reading to Euston according to a user on another thread on here.

That was me!

The full circuit includes Paddington and North Pole too, but I only listed the headcodes for the trains in to Euston.

 

[Snow1964]

A quick search on RTT has sourced these paths:

Realtime Trains | 3Q82 1230 Reading to London Euston | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q82 1230 departure from Reading to London Euston on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 3Q83 1409 London Euston to Reading | 28/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q83 1409 departure from London Euston to Reading on 28/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Thanks
36 minutes from Acton Main Line to Euston
13.5 minutes from Euston to Acton Main Line

Hopefully they are not final path timings

 

[Nippy]

13.5 minutes from Euston - Acton ML isn’t bad. But agreed coming the other way is slow as coming the other way, pathing through WL Junction is trickier. I wouldn’t think these are the final path though.

 

[Clarence Yard]

Should be 802114.

 

[Boodiggy]

13.5 minutes from Euston - Acton ML isn’t bad. But agreed coming the other way is slow as coming the other way, pathing through WL Junction is trickier. I wouldn’t think these are the final path though.

It sits on the South Wests for 20 minutes so if a platform is free at Euston and a gap at West London Jn it might not sit that long….

 

[Nippy]

I work Wembley box. The tricky bit will be getting a gap at WLJ. The 15mph crossovers are a pain.

 

[Boodiggy]

Yes, very slow junction.
It was a nightmare to maintain when I worked there many years ago!

 

[Mainline421]

GWR will be running some Reading to Euston services next week for tests.

Edit: Upon further inspection I can't find them on RTT but apparently their headcodes are 3Q80 - 3Q83 running Reading to Euston according to a user on another thread on here.

I wouldn't call an ECS a service.

 

[danbarjon]

I wouldn't call an ECS a service.

I meant test service.

 

[The Planner]

I work Wembley box. The tricky bit will be getting a gap at WLJ. The 15mph crossovers are a pain.

Avanti and LNWR will get flexed to make gaps.

 

[southern442]

2tph to Euston will work I expect.

They won't go to Waterloo, takes too long.

Surely 2tph to each of Euston and Waterloo is better than just 2tph to Euston?

 

[Class15]

Surely 2tph to each of Euston and Waterloo is better than just 2tph to Euston?

Agreed. Should use both.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

Surely 2tph to each of Euston and Waterloo is better than just 2tph to Euston?

Why? If it takes ages to get to Waterloo then nobody will use those services, the risk is that journey planners might even tell people to change trains at Reading which would be carnage.

 

[Fermiboson]

Should the comparison for travel time not be made against terminating at Ealing Broadway and taking the tube into central London, as opposed to the time taken to reach Paddington under normal circumstances? After all, that will be the only available alternative when this happens.

 

[Nippy]

Avanti and LNWR will get flexed to make gaps.

Oh yeah I get that, I was more responding to the comment that if the platform was available, we’d be able to run them early from WLJ

 

[eh_oh]

Will SWR be running extra services to Exeter?

 

[Boodiggy]

Oh yeah I get that, I was more responding to the comment that if the platform was available, we’d be able to run them early from WLJ

The GWR units are not cleared for slow lines yet so you won’t need to cross them across the whole ladder…..

 

[The Planner]

The GWR units are not cleared for slow lines yet so you won’t need to cross them across the whole ladder…..

They need to be for November!

 

[Boodiggy]

They need to be for November!

So will the GWR sleeper need to be….

Although Mk3 sleepers and a 57 will be ok there..

 

[Nippy]

The GWR units are not cleared for slow lines yet so you won’t need to cross them across the whole ladder…..

I know, but considering the 805 and 807s are it shouldn’t be too much work to get them cleared…..

 

[Horizon22]

13.5 minutes from Euston - Acton ML isn’t bad. But agreed coming the other way is slow as coming the other way, pathing through WL Junction is trickier. I wouldn’t think these are the final path though.

No of course not - they're just weaving them into the regular timetable at present in the off-peak as extra STP trains. There would be a fully pathed timetable which would likely be in the 15-20 min ballpark when they actually do run in passenger service.

 

[Boodiggy]

I know, but considering the 805 and 807s are it shouldn’t be too much work to get them cleared…..

Slightly different dimensions hence the restriction..

 

[Nippy]

No of course not - they're just weaving them into the regular timetable at present in the off-peak as extra STP trains. There would be a fully pathed timetable which would likely be in the 15-20 min ballpark when they actually do run in passenger service.

I was responding to the person hoping 36 minutes was not a final path. I’m not that good at posting including quotes.

Slightly different dimensions hence the restriction..

Yep and as they’re slightly different it shouldn’t be too hard to get the restriction removed.

 

[Boodiggy]

I was responding to the person hoping 36 minutes was not a final path. I’m not that good at posting including quotes.


Yep and as they’re slightly different it shouldn’t be too hard to get the restriction removed.

It will following the usual process for gauge clearance and compatibility.

 

[Nippy]

It will following the usual process for gauge clearance and compatibility.

Yes of course, I just meant there shouldn‘t be too much work, if any on the ground to do. I’m not commenting further now.

 

[Boodiggy]

Yes of course, I just meant there shouldn‘t be too much work, if any on the ground to do. I’m not commenting further now.

Yes, shouldn’t be too much work.
Potentially copers on disused platforms at South Hampstead if anything.. (not sure if they came off for the mk4 coaches for Blackpool services a few years ago)…

 

[brad465]

Will SWR be running extra services to Exeter?

If they don't have the rolling stock and the paths (remembering there are a lot of single sections west of Salisbury), then no.