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I was just wondering why this 4 wheel wagon sells for such a high price. On Ebay the buy it now price is £19.99 for one wagon from Jadlam. When I first bought this type of wagon back in 2002, it was a triple pack of EWS HAA's and it was £15 for the three. I fail to grasp why the price has increased by such a huge amount in the last decade.
 
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Probably will be some stupid people who will buy it at that price.

AFAIK Hornby haven't released an upgraded version so I wouldn't pay more than £5 for a new one.
 
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On Ebay a while back, a rake of 12 used HAA were listed. They were the older Hornby type with plastic wheelsets. Left a bid of £65 and got outbid! They just seem to be a wagon that always fetches a good price.
 

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AFAIK Hornby haven't released an upgraded version so I wouldn't pay more than £5 for a new one.
Hornby did do an upgrade of the HAA hopper about five or six years ago, providing sprung metal buffers, better underframe detailing and of the inside the hopper, metal wheels and a different paint finish concerning the hopper interior.

I bought the self same three pack of EWS HAA hoppers as truckman060473 at about the same time, and there is a fair bit of difference between those, which are the older Hornby moulding, and the new design that I have bought more recently.

Nevertheless, £19.99 for a four wheel hopper beggars belief even with the marked increase in detail; I think even Modelzone are selling them cheaper than that.
 

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That's the older style, less detailed wagons though which are always going to sell for a bit less, although they were a pretty good model in the first place, and Ebay can be great for deals than that: I've seen rakes of four of the new Hornby/Bachmann "Seacow" ballast hoppers available for 40 quid, which is pretty good when the individual wagons retail for well over £20, which is sheer madness.
 

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That's a fairly impressive rake going for sale there, used to see plenty of the Trainload Coal yellow stripe wagons on the "real railway" back in the day, though a rarer find in that set of six Hornby wagons is that one hopper with the big Trainload Coal logo on the bodyside, which was a short-lived feature on the real thing that was dropped not long after the livery was launched as it didn't agree well with the rollers on some of the mechanical coal loaders!
 

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For a while I thought that the big logo on the side was something Hornby had thought up and decided to stick it on to make it look better. Hardly any photos of the real thing.

Hornby did go through a phase in the early 90s of releasing wagons in liveries they never carried. Even an 03 shunter was released with a RfD grey colour scheme. Thankfully model railways have come on leaps and bounds since then.
 

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For a while I thought that the big logo on the side was something Hornby had thought up and decided to stick it on to make it look better. Hardly any photos of the real thing.

Hornby did go through a phase in the early 90s of releasing wagons in liveries they never carried. Even an 03 shunter was released with a RfD grey colour scheme. Thankfully model railways have come on leaps and bounds since then.
Class 06 shunter; it's Bachmann that does the 03s. ;) I thought that the 06 in RfD livery (Released in 2001 IIRC) looked pretty smart (Though as you say, totally fitictious of course), I'll probably get my hands on one eventually, though they don't seem to appear second hand nearly as often as many of Hornbys' other small 0-4-0 locos.
 

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I've often wondered this. What is it about these particular wagons that makes them so wanted? I wonder if it's because no-one else makes them (or even anything similar)? :|

I've got about 6 myself in varying degrees of filth. :lol:
 

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Class 06 shunter; it's Bachmann that does the 03s. ;) I thought that the 06 in RfD livery (Released in 2001 IIRC) looked pretty smart (Though as you say, totally fitictious of course), I'll probably get my hands on one eventually, though they don't seem to appear second hand nearly as often as many of Hornbys' other small 0-4-0 locos.

Always get mixed up with those two, although I should know since I've been on an 03 at Shildon!
 

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I've often wondered this. What is it about these particular wagons that makes them so wanted? I wonder if it's because no-one else makes them (or even anything similar)? :|

I've got about 6 myself in varying degrees of filth. :lol:
It's probably because they used to be absolutely everywhere across most areas of Britain: Growing up in north east England through the nineties, and into the early 2000s, I used to see hundreds, if not thousands, of them.

I've got a rake of ten: Of course,the dream is to have a full rake of 36 wagons, but that would never be a realistic proposition on my layout. Something I need to keep in mind, as this thread has given me a bit of an urge to purchase some more! :lol:
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Always get mixed up with those two, although I should know since I've been on an 03 at Shildon!
Aye; 03s have six wheels, 06s have four wheels, is the easiest way to tell the difference between the two.
 
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Yeah. I need some more. Only got 3! I decided to collect HEA's instead as I seemed to win these easy on Ebay, plus I managed to get 10 boxed HEA at a train fair for £45. So my total of them is now 27. I'd love to have that many HAA's I can tell you!
 
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