Has a Class 86 or 90 ever reached Southend or Southminster in passenger service?

[TheWalrus]

I’m guess the answer to this will be no but has a loco-hauled service (probably either a Class 86 or 90) ever reached Southend or Southminster on a normal passenger service out of Liverpool Street? Either operated by Greater Anglia, NXEA, “one”, Anglia Railways or even in British Rail times?
Apparently a 90 has been to Southend but I’m guessing not in normal passenger service from London? I’m keen to know if this has happened!
Many thanks in advance

 

[HOOVER29]

A pair of Anglia 86’s worked a tour to both destinations in October 2004 & I think an 86/6 worked one a few years ago but booked passenger I don’t know.
Can’t find any class 90 that’s worked to either place.
Anglia region isn’t my area so someone else may know more.

 

[childwallblues]

I was told many years go that a mystery excursion hauled by a Class 85 from Liverpool Lime Street went to Southend Central and Shoeburyness.

 

[Alfie1014]

I was told many years go that a mystery excursion hauled by a Class 85 from Liverpool Lime Street went to Southend Central and Shoeburyness.

1989 the return train passing Pitsea.

 

[Magdalia]

A pair of Anglia 86’s worked a tour to both destinations in October 2004

According to Six Bells this went to Southend Victoria but not Southminster. Date was 30/10/04 and locos 86235 and 86246.

Another railtour on 05/02/05 had 86501 out of Southend Victoria after arriving with 60094.

The Great Eastern Pullman on 02/02/85 arrived at Southend Victoria with 86007 and departed with 86324.

I can't find the class 86/6s.

I was told many years go that a mystery excursion hauled by a Class 85 from Liverpool Lime Street went to Southend Central and Shoeburyness.

03/08/89. Six Bells has Carlisle-Southend Central.

85101 made it to Shoeburyness on the Roarer Requiem railtour on 30/06/91.

 

[Snow1964]

Definitely been on an 86 hauled rail tour to Southend, it was around time electrification was being extended to Ipswich (early 1985), it also went to Clacton and Bishops Stortford (which was then limit of electrification). It used 3 different 86s and had Manchester Pullman stock.

 

[Bringback309s]

http://www.theflob.co.uk/railway/2004/86tour/[email protected]

Six Bells Junction

 

[HOOVER29]

According to Six Bells this went to Southend Victoria but not Southminster. Date was 30/10/04 and locos 86235 and 86246.

Another railtour on 05/02/05 had 86501 out of Southend Victoria after arriving with 60094.

The Great Eastern Pullman on 02/02/85 arrived at Southend Victoria with 86007 and departed with 86324.

I can't find the class 86/6s.


03/08/89. Six Bells has Carlisle-Southend Central.

85101 made it to Shoeburyness on the Roarer Requiem railtour on 30/06/91.

Photo on Flickr has 86636 at Hockley on Northampton-Southend Victoria leg of the Current Orbiter Railtour.
Says 10th Jan 2015

 

[jfollows]

Definitely been on an 86 hauled rail tour to Southend, it was around time electrification was being extended to Ipswich (early 1985), it also went to Clacton and Bishops Stortford (which was then limit of electrification). It used 3 different 86s and had Manchester Pullman stock.

Yes, I went on that railtour as well, it was something a little different from the usual! I think it was immediately after the demise of the vacuum-braked Mark 2 Manchester Pullman in May 1985, or at least immediately prior to this (2 February 1985 in fact, as previously noted).
From https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/:

Loco	Route
86007	London Liverpool Street - (via GEML) - Shenfield - Billericay - Wickford - Rayleigh - Southend Victoria
86324	Southend Victoria - (reverse of outward route) - Shenfield
86324	Shenfield - (via GEML, Colchester Goods lines) - Hythe - Thorpe-le-Soken - Clacton
86316	Clacton - (reverse of outward route) - Colchester - (via GEML) - London Liverpool Street
86007	London Liverpool Street - Bethnal Green - Clapton Jn - Tottenham South Jn - South Tottenham - Seven Sisters - Brimsdown - Cheshunt - Broxbourne Jn - Bishops Stortford
86007	Bishops Stortford - (reverse of outward route) - London Liverpool Street

 

[12LDA28C]

Photo on Flickr has 86636 at Hockley on Northampton-Southend Victoria leg of the Current Orbiter Railtour.
Says 10th Jan 2015

The Current Orbiter railtour ran on 11th October 1997.

 

[HOOVER29]

The Current Orbiter railtour ran on 11th October 1997.

Probably the date added to Flickr then.
Thought just from looking at the photo it was a tad dodgy for a 2015 date

 

[dannyh73]

Probably the date added to Flickr then.
Thought just from looking at the photo it was a tad dodgy for a 2015 date

That’s probably my photo and, yes,
2015 would have been when I loaded it. 90138 (also on My Flickr page) hauled the tour back from Southend to Liverpool Street

90138 Hockley

Class 90, 90138 hauls the "Current Orbiter" railtour through Hockley towards Liverpool Street

flic.kr

I can’t ever remember an 86 or 90 running down to Southminster in passenger service though..

 

[Magdalia]

Photo on Flickr has 86636 at Hockley on Northampton-Southend Victoria leg of the Current Orbiter Railtour.
Says 10th Jan 2015

Thanks. I'm not sure how I failed to find that!

 

[nw1]

Probably the date added to Flickr then.
Thought just from looking at the photo it was a tad dodgy for a 2015 date

Indeed, I noticed the NSE signage straight away - I know old liveries can hang around, but 2015 for NSE is pushing it!

 

[12LDA28C]

Indeed, I noticed the NSE signage straight away - I know old liveries can hang around, but 2015 for NSE is pushing it!

Still some NSE signage around on stations, even now in 2023.

 

[Magdalia]

but 2015 for NSE is pushing it!

I was admiring the NSE signage at Downham Market only a few days ago.

 

[Deepgreen]

Looks like the answer to the OP is 'no', then.

 

[TheWalrus]

Looks like the answer to the OP is 'no', then.

Yes as I expected but I have learned a lot of things that have happened from this thread some before I was born so it has been very interesting. Thank you all for your responses!