Helensburgh-Glasgow Q St/Airdrie trains

[MidnightFlyer]

Hi all,

Since the A-B has been reduced to just 1tph over its entirety, what happens to the other train per hour from Helensburgh also scheduled to traverse it?
Also, what route are the Helensburgh-Queen St and beyond trains scheduled to take, they run non-stop from Dalmuir-Hyndland, so do they go via Yoker and Garscadden or Westerton and Anniesland?

TIA,
Matt

 

[Clip]

cor, long time since i had to do that trip..

 

[me123]

The Helensburgh-Edinburgh services are an extension of the existing Helensburgh-Airdrie(-Drumgelloch) services.

At the moment, 1tph runs from Helensburgh-Edinburgh, and the other runs from Helensburgh-Airdrie, terminating in Platform 2 at Airdrie station (as it was doing up to the timetable change). It then stays there for until it's scheduled to depart back to Helensburgh. This means that it's going to the Glasgow-bound platform at Airdrie and effectively blocking the new line for 20 minutes or so. Platform 1 at Airdrie (the bay platform) continues to be used by the Airdrie-Balloch via Singer services, and as such is unavailable for these services.

Edinburgh-Helensburgh trains call at all stations to Glasgow Queen Street, then Charing Cross, Partick, Hyndland, non-stop to Dalmuir, non-stop to Dumbarton East, then all stops to Helensburgh. They are booked to go non-stop via Yoker normally, but of course they can go the other way if there's a problem of some sort. I don't know off the top of my head if there's a time penalty for going the other way, but I have seen it happen.

On Sundays, Helensburgh-Edinburgh trains run via Singer calling at all stations. Interestingly, this gives some stations a Sunday-only service to Edinburgh.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

The Helensburgh-Edinburgh services are an extension of the existing Helensburgh-Airdrie(-Drumgelloch) services.

At the moment, 1tph runs from Helensburgh-Edinburgh, and the other runs from Helensburgh-Airdrie, terminating in Platform 2 at Airdrie station (as it was doing up to the timetable change). It then stays there for until it's scheduled to depart back to Helensburgh. This means that it's going to the Glasgow-bound platform at Airdrie and effectively blocking the new line for 20 minutes or so. Platform 1 at Airdrie (the bay platform) continues to be used by the Airdrie-Balloch via Singer services, and as such is unavailable for these services.

Edinburgh-Helensburgh trains call at all stations to Glasgow Queen Street, then Charing Cross, Partick, Hyndland, non-stop to Dalmuir, non-stop to Dumbarton East, then all stops to Helensburgh. They are booked to go non-stop via Yoker normally, but of course they can go the other way if there's a problem of some sort. I don't know off the top of my head if there's a time penalty for going the other way, but I have seen it happen.

On Sundays, Helensburgh-Edinburgh trains run via Singer calling at all stations. Interestingly, this gives some stations a Sunday-only service to Edinburgh.

That's great thanks, I think via Yoker is shoter (about 1 mile) than via Westerton, but then you may get stuck behind other North Clyde trains. Thanks for the info on the Airdrie terminators too.

Thainmking about it, Westerton and Anniesland are probably 'too big' to be ommited from a service to the Capital.

 

[me123]

Westerton and Anniesland will get direct trains to Edinburgh when the Milngavie-Edinburgh limited stop services start. They're also served by the Helensburgh-Edinburgh via Signer services on Sundays at the moment.

Looking at the current timetable, if the Helensburgh services go via Singer for some reason, Eastbound services will be stuck behind a stopper and will end up about 5 minutes late, whereas Westbound services will just catch up with a Dalmuir terminator and only lose a few minutes (assuming the stopper is up to time). Despite the difference in distance traveled, there's only a minute or so difference in the timings between each branch.