- 19 Dec 2014
One more pic, this time from Vlaardingen West. A metro train towards Hoek van Holland arrives at the completely rebuilt station.
Not a major surprise, although this contradicts what it said on the RET site previously. Which other metros are included?Interrail / Eurail passes are apparently no longer valid on this route, according to Interrail's Twitter team:
"...the RET line in this route is unfortunately not included in the Interrail Pass. You can purchase a ticket for the metro at the station in Hoek van Holland."
That is not clear from https://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry-to-holland/rail-and-sail/ but Seat61 https://www.seat61.com/Netherlands.htm says a Dutch Flyer ticket does include travel on the Metro:Is metro included on standalone tickets from Any Greater Anglia Station to Any Dutch Station?
Its a ticket for one journey from the port to a Dutch station and not like a travelcard for multiple trips.What does the fare include? The fare includes the train from London, Cambridge or any Greater Anglia rail station to Harwich, Stena Line ferry to Hoek van Holland, the metro from Hoek to Schiedam Centrum and the Dutch train from Schiedam to Amsterdam Centraal or any Dutch station, all on one ticket.
Bus transfers (in NL) are operated by or on behalf of the ferry company. DFDS (IJmuiden-North Shields) charge for it. Don’t know about P&O (Europoort-Hull).Usually bus transfers between ferry and train station are. I can't think of another done by metro.
Is metro included on standalone tickets from Any Greater Anglia Station to Any Dutch Station?
Europoort-Hull has no Interrail offer and does not appear on the Interrail map, so it seems less relevant. That's poor service by DFDS as well in trying to sell a €6 coach into Amsterdam instead of including the €2,40 bus to the train station (and listing old incorrect information for the buses on their web page). So ferries to the Netherlands are where Interrailers get mugged.Bus transfers (in NL) are operated by or on behalf of the ferry company. DFDS (IJmuiden-North Shields) charge for it. Don’t know about P&O (Europoort-Hull).
Don’t know about this “any station” arrangement. Stena talks about NS-stations, but doesn’t explicitly exclude stations served by other companies...
It's existed for long before NS/Abellio had the franchise.So basically it’s a Stena-NS arrangement then, as Greater Anglia is an NS outfit.
Don’t know when the ‘from all stations in NL to London Liverpool St’ arrangement ended.
But €* does offer it - to St Pancras of course.
& Stena could be clearer about all this on its UK website. It talks about ‘all NS-stations*’ , so you expect a footnote, but no.
IR IS valid on SOME sections of the Paris-RER network, those that used to be normal SNCF-suburban lines before. You can get free ''franchise'' tickets for that from the office-and have bad luck is that is closed or unaware of it. Thats all very strict historic French legality as to hwom owns what.I would assume that interrail is not valid on the Paris Metro when going from Gare d'Lyon to Gare du Nord?
I guess HvH would be a similar situation, even if it is a step backwards.
Footpax just don't count for the ferry business anymore.
not quite true-IC seat reservations, at least in DE, cost since some time 4,50. But there are many, many cases where holders of IR have to pay for very short sections of travel by other means-just look at the horrendous fares of TfL for a short Z1 underground connection between 2 stops.........So Hoek to Schiedam now costs Interrailers more than an ICE seat? That seems poor and I hope Stena and Interrail are being cross at RET.
I happily stand corrected. Was more thinking about SMZ/Sealink days. Did BR offer it at the time?It's existed for long before NS/Abellio had the franchise.
Back in Anglia Railways days it was any AR station to any NS station.
I think they are pretty clear already about where you can and can't go if you look at their terms and conditions. The only thing which bothers me a little is that their initial marketing blurb states 'any Dutch station', while they say this in their FAQ:But I think Stena-UK could be more straightforward in describing where you can/can’t go in NL.
The T&C's page further clarifies it:Q: Where can I catch the train from/to in the UK?
A: Any station that is part of the Greater Anglia network.
Q: Where can I catch the train to/from in the Netherlands?
A: Any station that is part of the NS network.
I've sent Stena Line UK a tweet about it, let's see if they change the text.Advance single 'Dutchflyer' fares are available only in standard accommodation from any Greater Anglia station and Harwich International and in second class accommodation on NS Railway (Nederlandse Spoorwegen) trains between Hook of Holland and your destination in the Netherlands.
Please note, Rail & Sail train tickets are not valid on private carriers including: Arriva, Breng, Connexxion, Syntus and Thalys. There is an additional charge for Intercity Direct and ICE trains.