Hornby's New DVT

[TGVDUDE]

Hornby are producing a new DVT model due for release in Spetmeber! they anounced it at the DEMU show and will produce these models in Virgin and 'One' liveries although they will also produce a pack of the EWS Manegment train consisting of an EWS 67 and presumably 2 coaches and the DVT full report here:

http://hornby.com/news-events/hornby-uses-the-demu-showcase-to-launch-the-new-mk3-dvt,51,HNS.html
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also from what i can see it looks like a fine model!

 

[GNERman]

i suggested on the gc hst model thread that it would make sense for them to make one as they have classes 67, 86, 87 and 90...

 

[andy13]

I don't understand, Hornby have already released a class 82 DVT i have a virgin one???
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I don't understand, Hornby have already released a class 82 DVT i have a virgin one???

Unless it's super detail?

 

[TGVDUDE]

well from the photos i have seen it does look really detailed!



http://hornby.com/news-events/hornby-uses-the-demu-showcase-to-launch-the-new-mk3-dvt,51,HNS.html

there were also a couple in Model Rail 132

 

[90019]

I don't understand, Hornby have already released a class 82 DVT i have a virgin one???

The old Mk3 DVT they did was just the Mk4 DVT repainted, which looked rubbish, becuase it still had the tapered sides, compared to the relatively flat profile of the Mk3, and the nose was too long as well.

I'm still not completely convinced by this, and I'll reserve my judgement of it until i see the actual model.

 

[TGVDUDE]

The old Mk3 DVT they did was just the Mk4 DVT repainted, which looked rubbish, becuase it still had the tapered sides, compared to the relatively flat profile of the Mk3, and the nose was too long as well.

I diddn't know that lol, i diddn't get that model anyway! i'm kinda tempted by this tho, i might get the EWS Pack thingy

 

[andy13]

The old Mk3 DVT they did was just the Mk4 DVT repainted, which looked rubbish, becuase it still had the tapered sides, compared to the relatively flat profile of the Mk3, and the nose was too long as well.

I'm still not completely convinced by this, and I'll reserve my judgement of it until i see the actual model.

I'm usually quite good with spotting things like that but i really didnt notice, will they be doing a virgin livery?

what is the main differences in them as there both class 82?
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I've always thought the east coast ones were narrower on the front but thought it was trick of the eye because of the paintwork.

what two do virgin have in storage? and do they get used reg?

 

[90019]

I'm usually quite good with spotting things like that but i really didnt notice, will they be doing a virgin livery?

what is the main differences in them as there both class 82?

They're both coaching stock class 82, not locomotive TOPS codes.

The Mk4s have a narrower body profile, that is also tapered, compared to the wider, flatter profile of the Mk3s, the front ends of the two are also different, with the Mk4 having a longer nose than the Mk3, different light surrounds, a flatter windscreen, etc.

It may not be that noticable when you see them separately, but the differences become obvious when you compare the two.
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I've always thought the east coast ones were narrower on the front but thought it was trick of the eye because of the paintwork.

They're just overall narrower because they have a tilting profile (The 225s were designed so that they could be modified to tilt), whereas the Mk3s don't, so have the flatter profile and the slightly wider body.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

what is the main differences in them as there both class 82?....

....what two do virgin have in storage? and do they get used reg?

Virgin don't own any, but they do still use one on their London-Birmingham services, in place of a Pendelino and have one being prepared for service to replace it. There are other places to see them though, National Express East Anglia (NXEA) now use them on services between London Liverpool Street and Norwich, and Wrexham & Shropshire (WSMR) use a few on their services too.

As for the difference between the type of driving van, well here are a couple of pictures....

Mk3

Mk4

Pictures used are from www.traintesting.com

 

[TGVDUDE]

MK4's seem to have longer fronts, i prefer them for some reason

 

[90019]

I prefer the slightly boxier style of the Mk3, and I prefer the shorter nose.

 

[andy13]

yeh i like the "chunkier" version mk3 they look more mean and powerfull lol yet mk4 look faster.

 

[TGVDUDE]

thats probably why i like them! lol

 

[jopsuk]

I can understand why normal trains packs aren't always full trains- but would it really have hurt them to make the Management Train pack full by including ONE more carriage?

 

[90019]

I can understand why normal trains packs aren't always full trains- but would it really have hurt them to make the Management Train pack full by including ONE more carriage?

The final coach will be available next year.

 

[TGVDUDE]

yea, they always do it every year, they put them in the coaching stock section of their range

 

[tbtc]

I'm embarassed to say I had no idea there were two types of 82 until reading this thread (ignoring the old Class 82 engines, from BR days of course!)