How does data get to small railway stations for departure board's

[Trains1]

Hello

Does anyone on here know how the data for a small train stations run by Northern departure boards get there like over the Internet or is there a separate network for these it looks like thay connect back to the box that the ticket machine connects to

Thanks

 

[Bletchleyite]

Over the Internet, likely via a SIM card.

The display on Northern's TVMs and information screens (rather than the LED ones) is just a web page eg:

Web CIS

Change the 3 letter code to the Northern operated station of your choice.

 

[Adam Williams]

likely via a SIM card

I had heard that particularly rural stations are sometimes well-placed to make use of RFC 1149 where connectivity is otherwise a challenge, though I understand the latency isn't great.

 

[Mcq]

Over the Internet, likely via a SIM card.

The display on Northern's TVMs and information screens (rather than the LED ones) is just a web page eg:

Web CIS

Change the 3 letter code to the Northern operated station of your choice.

Is there a similar Webcis for north london stations - e.g. Winchmore Hill (WIH) please?

 

[MrJeeves]

I had heard that particularly rural stations are sometimes well-placed to make use of RFC 1149 where connectivity is otherwise a challenge, though I understand the latency isn't great.

Explains all the Darwin "no reports".

 

[Halish Railway]

Explains all the Darwin "no reports".

I’d have thought that’d be more to do with the signalling design, rather than mobile/internet reception, particularly for stations that are in the middle of long block sections where there aren’t any track sensors.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Is there a similar Webcis for north london stations - e.g. Winchmore Hill (WIH) please?

Worldline Tiger appears to work for there:

https://tiger.worldline.global/home

 

[Nottingham59]

There's a national data feed from Network Rail that anyone can subscribe to over the interweb. My teenage son has live departures from Nottingham Station continuously scrolling on a mini-LCD display hooked up to a Raspberry Pi.

EDIT: This is the link he used. Don't ask me for the details as I have no idea how it works

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/real-time-train-station-arrival-board/

Also:

https://www.raspberrypi.com/tutorials/train-timetable-raspberry-pi-tutorial/

 

[Geoff_K]

Worldline Tiger appears to work for there:

https://tiger.worldline.global/home

I wonder why Crayford (CRY) is missing from the list of stations you can click on?

 

[Mcq]

Thanks Bletchleyite

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Over the Internet, likely via a SIM card.

The display on Northern's TVMs and information screens (rather than the LED ones) is just a web page eg:

Web CIS
Change the 3 letter code to the Northern operated station of your choice.

That explains where the UI for the TVMs comes from, it's literally just that page!
I thought it was just something the TVM maker had designed.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I wonder why Crayford (CRY) is missing from the list of stations you can click on?

Tiger only includes stations that have a Worldline CIS setup.

 

[stadler]

Tiger only includes stations that have a Worldline CIS setup.

Crayford does have a Worldline CIS and has done for twelve years. For some odd reason most Southeastern stations are missing from the Tiger website. It is supposed to include all stations with a Worldline CIS but yet the majority of the Southeastern stations are missing. It must be an error and perhaps Worldline forgot to add them.

 

[buz33]

I had heard that particularly rural stations are sometimes well-placed to make use of RFC 1149 where connectivity is otherwise a challenge, though I understand the latency isn't great.

Explains all the Darwin "no reports".

I’d have thought that’d be more to do with the signalling design, rather than mobile/internet reception, particularly for stations that are in the middle of long block sections where there aren’t any track sensors.

I don't think that was a serious suggestion that RFC 1149 is used for internet connectivity.

IP over Avian Carriers - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Geoff_K]

Thanks for the info.

 

[rf_ioliver]

I had heard that particularly rural stations are sometimes well-placed to make use of RFC 1149 where connectivity is otherwise a challenge, though I understand the latency isn't great.

Bandwidth is pretty good....do you know how many SD cards you store in a coconut?

 

[Trains1]

There's a national data feed from Network Rail that anyone can subscribe to over the interweb. My teenage son has live departures from Nottingham Station continuously scrolling on a mini-LCD display hooked up to a Raspberry Pi.

EDIT: This is the link he used. Don't ask me for the details as I have no idea how it works

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/real-time-train-station-arrival-board/

Also:

https://www.raspberrypi.com/tutorials/train-timetable-raspberry-pi-tutorial/

I'm building one of those at the moment