I was given a slip of paper by the inspector and don't know what it means or what happens next and what I do next?

[sai]

Hello
Today I get a slip of paper by Thames link railway. I am traveling form littlehampton to London Victoria by using 16 -17 railcard. I don't have railcard but I edited 16-25 railcard in picture. What is the next step I will do and how many days after they send me letter on post address.
Please help me I am worried about it.

 

[Gwr12345]

Could you upload a picture of the 'slip of paper' with personal details redacted so we can see what it is? What does it say at the top, Ticket Irregularity Report or Penalty Fare, or something else? Then forum members will be able to assist you better.

 

[sai]

This is

Could you upload a picture of the 'slip of paper' with personal details redacted so we can see what it is? What does it say at the top, Ticket Irregularity Report or Penalty Fare, or something else? Then forum members will be able to assist you better.

 

[Elecman]

This is

You need to remove that picture and delete all your personal details and the reference number as you are a dentifrices to all forum users until you do ( and to GTR)

 

[Gloster]

Please block out your name, the reference number and any other identifying details so that nobody can see them.

 

[sai]

Could you upload a picture of the 'slip of paper' with personal details redacted so we can see what it is? What does it say at the top, Ticket Irregularity Report or Penalty Fare, or something else? Then forum members will be able to assist you better.

 

[Elecman]

Based on the previously posted image were you travelling on a child Ticket?

 

[kacper]

Based on the previously posted image were you travelling on a child Ticket?

op said they used a 16 17 railcard, which gives the same discount as a child ticket

 

[sai]

Based on the previously posted image were you travelling on a child Ticket?

Yes

What is the expected penalty they give me or it is possible to outside court settlement?

 

[kacper]

Yes

What is the expected penalty they give me or it is possible to outside court settlement?

Is this the first time you've done this?

 

[sai]

Yes I first time get this before I never do

 

[JBuchananGB]

Based on previous statement they had bought a ticket with 16-17 railcard discount, while not having such a railcard, but produced a forged 16-25 railcard. Age of OP seems to be 17. (DoB visible on unredacted image-since deleted) So a minor, but not a child. The rail company will send a letter to the OP, or possibly addressed to the OP's parent/guardian to ask for their side of the story.

 

[sai]

Based on previous statement they had bought a ticket with 16-17 railcard discount, while not having such a railcard, but produced a forged 16-25 railcard. Age of OP seems to be 17. (DoB visible on unredacted image-since deleted) So a minor, but not a child. The rail company will send a letter to the OP, or possibly addressed to the OP's parent/guardian to ask for their side of the story.

So how can I deal with them and what answers I will write in letter?

What is the expected penalty they give me or it is possible to outside court settlement?

 

[Gwr12345]

So how can I deal with them and what answers I will write in letter?

What is the expected penalty they give me or it is possible to outside court settlement?

Others will be happy to correct me, but I think you are best off waiting for the letter, as there is not much we can do in the interim.

 

[sai]

Others will be happy to correct me, but I think you are best off waiting for the letter, as there is not much we can do in the interim.

Okay

 

[AndroidBango]

Yes I first time get this before I never do

First time you have done this, or the first time you have been caught?

 

[sai]

First time you have done this, or the first time you have been caught?

First time I have been caught first and done

 

[AlterEgo]

The train company may audit your ticket purchasing accounts to check how many times you have claimed the discount. You would need to be relatively unfortunate for your fraud to be uncovered the very first time you attempted it.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Hello
Today I get a slip of paper by Thames link railway. I am traveling form littlehampton to London Victoria by using 16 -17 railcard. I don't have railcard but I edited 16-25 railcard in picture. What is the next step I will do and how many days after they send me letter on post address.
Please help me I am worried about it.

When you say you edited 16-25 railcard in picture, did you possess a different railcard and change it, or did you find a picture of one and edit it to suit your circumstances?

Either way, the train company will most likely conduct an investigation and write to you again when they have gathered enough evidence

 

[sai]

When you say you edited 16-25 railcard in picture, did you possess a different railcard and change it, or did you find a picture of one and edit it to suit your circumstances?

Either way, the train company will most likely conduct an investigation and write to you again when they have gathered enough evidence

Any other way to solve this matter without make it more complicated?

Any other way to solve this matter without make it more complicated?

How many days they will take for reply?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Any other way to solve this matter without make it more complicated?

Out of your hands, I would say. Not only does it seem that you've been using/attempting to use a forged 16-25 railcard, you've compounded this by claiming a different (greater) 16-17 railcard discount. If you've been travelling using tickets with inappropriate railcard discounts, on multiple occasions, this is likely to prove expensive to sort.

 

[sai]

Out of your hands, I would say. Not only does it seem that you've been using/attempting to use a forged railcard, you've compounded this by claiming a different (greater) railcard discount. If you've been travelling using tickets with inappropriate railcard discounts, on multiple occasions, this is likely to prove expensive to sort.

It's possible to do without involving court or appeal

 

[Mcr Warrior]

It's possible to do without involving court or appeal

You'll know how many times you've been fare dodging. If the cumulative amounts (you'll be expected to pay the full, undiscounted Anytime fare for each and every time they reckon you didn't have valid tickets, and it's easy enough to check if you've bought your inappropriately discounted tickets online through the likes of Trainline) then add up to a significant sum, you may wish to consider seeking out appropriate legal representation.

 

[skyhigh]

It's possible to do without involving court or appeal

If by appeal you mean engaging with the train company, then no - you will not be able to sort this without either court or communicating with the train company.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

@sai This could be a potentially very serious matter and I would respectfully suggest that you see it this way.

Presume you were interviewed at London Victoria by a ticket inspector. Can you remember what you told him/her? Remember, whatever you said at the time may contribute to evidence that can be used against you.

 

[sai]

@sai This could be a potentially very serious matter and I would respectfully suggest that you see it this way.

Presume you were interviewed at London Victoria by a ticket inspector. Can you remember what you told him/her? Remember, whatever you said at the time may contribute to evidence that can be used against you.

So what I do ?

 

[L401CJF]

Any other way to solve this matter without make it more complicated?


How many days they will take for reply?

It's possible to do without involving court or appeal

You don't seem to realise quite how serious this could be, you've forged/altered a railcard and are obtaining discounts you arn't entitled to - even applying a greater discount to purchase tickets (16-17) than the card would offer in the first place (16-25) - this is fraud.

You don't have a choice in what happens next. The company will write to you at some point, for now your best option is to wait for their letter and return for advice. If your parents arnt already aware then I suggest you let them know (given posts above state you're under 18)

 

[AndroidBango]

So what I do ?

Wait until you receive a letter from Thameslink after they have completed their investigation. In the meantime, you can work out the value of the fares you have fraudulently dodged - as this evidently not the first time you have done this - to give yourself a rough idea of how expensive this if going to be for you to resolve.

 

[Hadders]

Welcome to the forum!

We see lots of cases on here about ticketing irregularities. These are often resolved by paying what is known as an out of court settlement. Basically you pay the outstanding fare plus an admin charge to the train company and in return they will not prosecute you in the Magistrates Court.

A big complication in your case is that you forged a railcard, this is potentially very serious. The good news for you is that you're dealing with Govia Thameslink Railway who are generally one of the more reasonable train companies to deal with.

GTR will write to you in the next few weeks asking for your version of events before deciding how to proceed. All you can do at the moment is wait for the letter to arrive and when it comes, post a copy of it in this thread and we will give you our thoughts on how nest to reply. Do be sure to remove personal details and case reference numbers before posting it.

 

[sai]

Welcome to the forum!

We see lots of cases on here about ticketing irregularities. These are often resolved by paying what is known as an out of court settlement. Basically you pay the outstanding fare plus an admin charge to the train company and in return they will not prosecute you in the Magistrates Court.

A big complication in your case is that you forged a railcard, this is potentially very serious. The good news for you is that you're dealing with Govia Thameslink Railway who are generally one of the more reasonable train companies to deal with.

GTR will write to you in the next few weeks asking for your version of events before deciding how to proceed. All you can do at the moment is wait for the letter to arrive and when it comes, post a copy of it in this thread and we will give you our thoughts on how nest to reply. Do be sure to remove personal details and case reference numbers before posting it.

Thank you